I’ll never understand Alien3

"To make things worse, when Ridley comes back to make his Alien prequels he farted all over Aliens again with his origin story which rejects the whole queen alien concept. Fox took yet another dump on their masterpiece."

I don't think it rejects the Alien queen. It just doesn't include her. The prequels have different aliens created by David.

I did think Alien 3 was a lot more subdued (only one of them, no guns -- altho they were told they couldn't use guns in Aliens) but I enjoyed Alien Resurrection...

How the hell do you fight a horde of ALIENS with no guns?? No weapons as well?? And Newt should've lived along with Michael Biehn

I've actually just done a quick google. apparently one of the reasons they (the producers) had a no-gun policy, was that (the) aliens can be killed quite easily with pulse rifle guns (or whatever future guns are), so a no guns policy made the film a bit more tricky for the humans in the film. which sort of makes sense

cos otherwise it would just have been "more of the same shit"

You're not the only one.

I've always hated those things about it too. People defend it by saying there should be no happy ending to a horror franchise.

If you look into the production history of Alien 3 it becomes much more understandable how it turned out the way it did. Nobody went into the project with the intention of producing such a drab film, it just slowly got funneled into that shape after years of development hell.

Basically they spent years trying to get an action-oriented sequel to Aliens based around Hicks and Bishop off the ground but simply couldn't get a satisfying script, so they finally decided instead to bring back Ripley and try for a fresh new direction. By the time the producers decided that the "surreal" direction David Twohy had come up with (wooden planet, crazy nightmares, etc.) was too far out there for an Alien sequel, the movie was already in pre-production with sets being built and everything, and so they had to work with what they already had.

Essentially, the reason that Alien 3 is so boring is mostly because it's the Twohy script but with all the "surreal" stuff scooped out without adding anything to compensate. It's like if you simply deleted all the action out of Aliens-- all you'd have left is a lamer retread of Alien, and that's pretty much what happened here. Now, I agree that Twohy's stuff was bonkers and inappropriate to the Alien series, but it would've likely been more fun and interesting to watch than the dull final film, at least.