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The truce?

posted 2 years ago by blindfolded (1621)
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Ripley and Queen reach an agreement: "Call off your goons and I won't torch your babies."

Ripley torches them anyway.

I know it was triggered by the egg hatching... but was that really Queen's fault? I think Ripley flexing, while badass, was a stupid move. Knowing they're all goners in the next few minutes anyway, she should have just booked it out of there. Not only that, she shot all the grenades at the egg-laying-intestinal-tract-thingy? Fucking aim for the Queen dammit! Again...badass... but foolish.

[–] MikeCable (1853) 2 years ago

It's one of those things where it seems stupid but on a re-watch you get into it more. It gave us a chance to see her lose it and go crazy and give us her 'Predator moment'.

In a more 'acceptable' sequence, I would have liked it to go like this:

Ripley and queen reach a truce. An explosion rocks them, the queen betrays and orders the attack. Ripley fires back blindly through steam as she goes for the exit with Newt, hitting xenomorphs with her ammo, hitting the 'connection' between queen and the sack, launching grenades which destroy eggs as collateral damage. Out in the corridor, aliens continue to chase from behind and intercept them in front. The queen tears off her damaged connection and goes after them. Ripley uses up all her ammo and fire protecting them both as they make it into the lift just as the queen gets to them, they go up and end up in the same desparate problem.

I guess what made it to film was a cheaper and simpler sequence which gave the audience a moment of massive, destructive and personal revenge for Ripley.

[–] blindfolded (1621) 2 years ago

I really like that a lot.

I think the key here is you have the Queen breaking the truce first. Ripley can then go ham on them out of necessity.

[–] Philhelm (509) a year ago

"It gave us a chance to see her lose it and go crazy and give us her 'Predator moment'."

You mean like the, "I'm gonna to have me some fun," moment form Predator?

[–] MikeCable (1853) a year ago

Can't remember the dialogue but I was thinking of when they are all shooting into the jungle at the trees together.

[–] moviechatterer (15697) a year ago

give us her 'Predator moment'.

presumably you mean the moment in Predator when they all fire off all their ammo blindly into the jungle and achieve nothing?

[–] moviechatterer (15697) 2 years ago

I watched this last night and the only thing I noticed to post about was this.
I thought the exact same thing

both the torching and the grenading

The queen was gonna be nuked by the reactor in minutes anyway!
Turns out they didnt even have to "nuke the site from orbit"

[–] ExTechOp (2770) a year ago

Ripey wasn't flexing, she was acting out

She was acting out of rage and vengeance

And yes, it was pointless, knowing as she did that the whole place was literally going nuclear

But it was still "in character" for her, after all she'd been through