in the beginning by the telescope after he took his clothes?
He killed the other two, but once he got clothes I think he would go straight to finding Sarah.
I'm on the fence if he would leave a potential witness to alert others or simply not give a f/ck.
It's an interesting question Slx, a good one indeed.
My main query about Arnie's terminator is why he doesn't come out and kill Sarah Conner at the car crash when the cops show up? Instead of completing his mission he does a bunk to fix up his eye.
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He was gone a little too fast cause the po-po was not that far behind both of them and he was no where to be found shortly thereafter in a tunnel .
shareAll true but he could've still taken Sarah out with a quick bullet to the brain and his job would have been done.
He had no issue going back to his motel room and stocking up on guns and then taking out an entire police station full of cops so there's little explanation as to why he wouldn't have just killed her then and there (Apart from to progress the story of course).
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Hmmmh, that could actually be a plot hole now that I think about it.
Arnie did sustain some damage but you would think he could still just kill Sarah with his bare hands.
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No, Arnold killed no one.
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My main query about Arnie's terminator is why he doesn't come out and kill Sarah Conner at the car crash when the cops show up? Instead of completing his mission he does a bunk to fix up his eye.
Although he did kill the gunshop owner after he got what he needed...
"What are you, some kind of doomsday machine, boy?"
the owner said 'you cant do that' therefore showing resistance (also there was he likelihood the owner will have had a gun under the counter and shot the terminator in the face/back of head as it walked out the store with the weapons therefore causing it unnecessary skin damage before the terminator would put him down). but it looked like the punk was only too willing to let terminator have the clothes after witnessing the death of his friends so maybe he lived? (unless he was like 'oh no not my pants too man!')
shareArnie also didn't kill the fat hick using the pay phone.
In the Predator franchise they only kill their targets or those who resist or point a weapon at them.
I'm thinking the Terminator makes a similar distinction when determining who and who not to kill.
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the force Paxpunk hit the wall looked to be something similar to being thrown from a motorbike and hitting the wall at 40mph
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Probably.
shareWell according to the paperback movie 'tie in', the guy who started giving the terminator his clothes lived--about 10 additional seconds.
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Which version of the novel as there's two for T1
shareI don't have it handy but it's the Frakes/Wisher version.
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I have both the Wisher/Frakes one from 1991 and the original 1984 version by Shaun Hutson.
in that one the last punk falls to his knees and starts praying to T800 then it twists his head the wrong way breaking his neck then removes the clothes lol
in both novels it states Paxpunk dies btw (in the hutson novel the terminator punches him in the face so hard it kills him)
those novels arent cannon there is no reason to think he would have killed the last punk if he gave him his clothes once he got what he wanted he would have left also the pax punk diddnt get hit in any way hard enough to die at most he was knocked out
shareHold on...Pax Punk hit the gate so hard he stuck there for a second before falling. I don't see him not suffering serious bodily harm--OK I see your point: maybe NOT dead but still...
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he prolly woke up an said hey wait a sec all my friends are dead
sharedo you figger T800 terminated him just to not leave witnesses?
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thats a possibility but he could have been rushing like maybe needing to take cover get clothes fast i mean an split im trying to think how a machine would he might go by mission priorities an split to find sara
shareI day he did like the other units do from the future
shareOf course. He's a Terminator.
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First of all, 'Arnie' doesn't kill anyone. The 'terminator' is a CHARACTER, 'Arnie' is the nickname of Arnold Schwarzenegger, the ACTOR. If you are going to seriously ask something about killing in a movie, the LEAST you could do is get it right and talk about the character, not the actor.
Even if you had got your question right, it would be impossible to answer anyway.
It WOULD be possible to answer, if the character was consistent, especially its decisions to 'terminate' and 'not to terminate' (it doesn't KILL anyway, it TERMINATES).
This character couldn't be more inconsistent.. there doesn't seem to be any kind of logic behind its fluctuation behaviour, either. Sometimes it goes on a rampage to terminate unidentified targets from the back (that could have been Sarah for all it knows, but it doesn't go to confirm), other times it just 'talks politely'.
When you look at this character's behaviour in the movie, it's SO inconsistent and so illogical, it's 100% impossible to say what it might have decided to do or not do in that situation. Does it spare people that are no longer assaulting, those that surrender? It is a TERMINATOR, after all, so no. It terminated the gun shop owner without any kind of mercy-programming.
Does it terminate people that have done nothing to it? Yes, the cops and disco scenes.
Does it sometimes spare people that it has incapacitated? Yes, weirdly. The disco bouncer just gets a strong handshake.
It's the inconsistenty that makes it impossible, and the only accurate answer would be something like: "Your guess is as good as mine".
I see no inconsistency.
it terminated the gun show owner for multiple reasons
-the guns were ESSENTIAL to his mission and he needed them at all costs
-the gun owner may have shot him, drawing unnecessary attention and damage
-reporting him to police makes him a target. up until then he has no heat on him. there must be some stealth protocol so leaving no witness vs the police on the lookout for a very distinct 6'2 Austrian giant due to the guy reporting him makes sense.
the disco scene
-was an almost certain kill on Sarah, his prime mission. it would make no sense to attempt shoot her then immediately give up and run when he got some resistance. she was still in reach.
the disco bouncer
-agian the bouncer posed no threat
-murdering him would have set off massive attention, alerting possibly everyone from the blood curdling screams and jeopardizing his main mission
-why would be jeopardize his main mission to murder someone when he can disarm him.
the car chase
-from the scene after we see his visuals were damaged as well as his arm. so a part blinded, single arm terminator would have likely chosen the stealth option vs fighting 10 cops who were armed. this meant he had and not yet revealed himself and gave him some tactical surprise and meant him returning to get his guns.
the cop station
-he knew she was there 100%
-there seemed no way to collect any more intel or get at her through stealth, deception ect.
-it was a last ditch effort and direct assault, attacking the station at night when it presumably has less staff and he knows she is there and not moved anywhere else.
-we have seen terminators directly assaulting human bunkers in the future in the past through similar means. this time there were few modern weapons that could damage him
Someone doesnt have to act the exact same at all times to be consistent. different scenarios called for different acts. and there were clearly levels to the terminators programming that prioritized certain things but included things like deception and stealth over outright direct murderous violence at all times.