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Nuclear war was never a real possibility


No country would ever destroy itself by attacking another country that also had nuclear weapons. It serves no purpose, there is nothing to gain. Also, one thing I never understood about the concept of nuclear war was why other countries are also attacked? Why would the USA or Russia ever want to nuke Argentina, New Zealand, South Africa, etc...?

I am so smart, the only thing I can't comprehend is how stupid everyone else is

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Yes, every idiot knows this. The true fear has always been "What if an insane lunatic with no grip on reality gets control of the button?"

Which is why we were all so nervous back when Reagan was in office.

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I wasn't. Well, not that much, really hehehehe

Reagan proposed the "Star Wars" project (AKA, SDI, Strategic Defense Iniative), proposed to unreservedly share all associated plans and technologies to the Soviet Union so that they could likewise be protected against our (the US) ICBMs. (What the hell happened to SDI anyway? Was it like shelved when people stopped worrying about nukes so much or something? ???)

Hehe Walter Mondale sure didn't like the idea, though, but it's a good thing that he was not elected to Office! I mean weren't there already enough inequities in the US and the World abroad already, particularly after the blighted mess of the previous Carter Administration! Hehe wow, we sure didn't need more of that kind of same hehehehehe

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SDI was not popular and never realized for a couple reasons:

1. It was obnoxiously expensive. The US was going through a major recession in the early 80s. Not at all popular from a political standpoint.

2. People had no desire to see war and weapons extend into space.

3. It was yet another escalation of the Cold War.

4. It was not anywhere near 100% effective. I don't remember what the official government estimate was on the percentage of ICBMs SDI could intercept, but even the best government estimate was nowhere near 100%, which means it was likely far lower than that. Let's say SDI could intercept 70% of ICBMs fired at the US. That means the 30% that actually get through would still be enough to obliterate the US, rendering the entire project totally meaningless.

I suspect the entire program was more a facade put on by the government in order to get more money for other Department of Defense programs and/or weaponry.

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I don't remember who said it, but one of the guys in power during The Cold War said "If there's one Russian and two Americans left after a nuclear war, we won."

Some people just don't care about anything.



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Unless it's a Russian male and two American females. Then I'm pretty sure he won.

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Not if the two American females are Roseanne Arnold and Rosie O'Donnell.

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No country would ever destroy itself by attacking another country that also had nuclear weapons. It serves no purpose, there is nothing to gain.


That is the whole point of the movie. There is no winner in a nuclear war. Better to play a nice game of Chess instead.

The really scary thing is that not only was/is it possible, we've come pretty dam close a handful of times. Fortunately the parties involved realized the insanity of the endeavor before it was too late. Fortunately the tensions between MOST nuclear powers are greatly reduced these days. We'll see what happens if Russia decides to keep invading former Soviet territories. And Pakistan and India may end up nuking each other someday, but that probably wouldn't end up starting WW3.

There was a time before ICBMs when US/Russian bombers loaded with nuclear weapons were in the air 24/7, circling near the Arctic Circle waiting for the order to cross into Russian/US airspace and drop their payloads.

Also, one thing I never understood about the concept of nuclear war was why other countries are also attacked?


In full scale nuclear war, the US and all it's allies attack Russia and all it's allies, and vice-verse. That would pretty much ruin the environment for everyone, even countries that were not directly attacked. With the total US/USSR stockpile around 60,000 warheads in 1984, there were plenty to go around, and enough to sterilize every continent on Earth.



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It still is a possibility. Cold War 2.0 is coming up in the near future.

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You're missing the whole point of the movie. Surely neither government would launch a full-scale nuclear attack against the other. There would be nothing to gain and everything to lose. However, had the scenario in this movie actually happened, whereas the NORAD computers were already detecting a full-scale attack against the US (or vice versa), I have no doubt that the other side would retaliate fully before it was too late to do so.

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Exactly, this movie is about how it could happen without anyone wanting it to, due to reliance on overly-complex systems. Later the same year as this movie came out something along these lines occurred: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9RrTzcDcw0

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You are assuming both intellegence and respect for life on some level. Have you had occasion to meet any islamic Jihadis and their belief system?

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to meet any islamic Jihadis and their belief system?


You think Kim Jong Un is any different? And he has nuclear weapons and yes, Sarah Palin can get hit by them from her deck.

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