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What actually happens at the end. An explanation.


You can listen to or read the rest of the story from NPR here- http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2013/07/19/201430727/what-actually-happens-at-the-end-of-trading-places]

Drive Up The Price Of Orange Juice Futures

The setting, the floor of the commodities exchange. The Duke brothers have told their trader to buy orange juice futures, and to keep buying no matter how high the price goes.

The market opens, and the Duke brothers' trader starts buying. Everybody else sees this and thinks the Dukes know something. Suddenly, everybody's buying. The price goes up and up and up, and the Dukes keep buying.

Sell To The Suckers

Then comes the key line for the entire movie — a line that's almost unintelligible. Standing on the floor of the exchange, Winthorpe (Dan Aykroyd) yells out:

Sell 30 April at 142!
Here's what that means: He wants to promise to sell orange juice in April for $1.42 per pound. The "30" in his line means he wants to start by selling 30 contracts. (One contract = many, many pounds of OJ.) (Also, that "30" might be some other number. It's hard to understand what he's saying. But it doesn't really matter — they sell a lot of contracts.)

All the other traders think the price in April will be higher than $1.42. The traders mob Winthorpe and Valentine, agreeing to buy lots and lots of OJ from them at $1.42 a pound.

Wait For The Other Shoe To Drop

A minute later, everything on the trading floor goes quiet. Everybody looks at the TV. On the TV, the secretary of agriculture walks up to a podium and reads the orange crop report. The guy tells the world that the orange crop is fine.

Buy Low, Get Rich And Bankrupt Your Enemies

To the traders, this means that the price of OJ is not going to go through the roof. All those traders who, a minute ago, were buying all they could, now suddenly need to sell. So the price starts falling. When the price hits 29 cents a pound, Winthorpe and Valentine start agreeing to buy orange juice in April.

In other words, Winthorpe and Valentine have contracts allowing them to buy millions of pounds of orange juice in April for 29 cents a pound, and to sell it for $1.42 a pound. They sold high and bought low. They're rich. The Dukes made the opposite bet and went broke.

Bonus: The Eddie Murphy Rule

One interesting kicker to the story: Trading commodities on inside information obtained from the government wasn't actually illegal when the movie came out, but it's illegal now. It was banned in the 2010 finance-overhaul law, under a special provision often referred to as the Eddie Murphy Rule.

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... Sell 30 April at 142!
I believe it's 200, as in, "Sell two hundred April at one forty two"

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thats how its done in the real world also. 99% of traders lose their money while 1% of them is profitable. its just one big machine to transfer wealth.

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Aykroyd says, "Sell 200 April at 142!"



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In sheer honesty, I think this was the best post seen on imdb !

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Don't worry, nobody really understood how it all worked at the time, pretty much everyone (Myself included) needed to be told this information.

And don't lie, that's why you're in this thread in the first place you shazbot!

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Thank you for clarifying.I love this flick, but never really understood it. I got the gist, but it's a lot clearer now. Thanks again.

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the thing about this film I have never really understood is this. the Duke brothers are supposed to be good businessmen,so when they find that Eddie Murphy is really good at what he does, why wouldn't they want to keep him on rather than throwing him back on the streets? He is amking them a lot of money.

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I've thought the same thing. In fact they should have kept both Valentine and Winthorpe.

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"Have a - N-word - in charge of our family firm?"

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Can this explanation be but into the FAQ so we don't lose it?

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I understood in general what they were doing on the trading floor (buying low, selling high), but I couldn't get what the big thing was over the super-secret "crop report" that everything seemed to hinge on.

Couldn't any of the investors and traders do some of their own research so that the announcement of the crop report wouldn't be such a shock to everyone? How much does it take to call a few random farmers in Florida or California and ask "Hey, how's your crop doing this year?" It's not like it's top secret military intelligence. Same for the weather report; it's all public knowledge.

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I agree. For the large swing the Dukes were trying to make it would make sense that they would try to verify things. It's not like they had to canvas the Corn Belt. Call a few key business people in Florida and California.

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