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What actually happens at the end. An explanation.


You can listen to or read the rest of the story from NPR here- http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2013/07/19/201430727/what-actually-happens-at-the-end-of-trading-places]

Drive Up The Price Of Orange Juice Futures

The setting, the floor of the commodities exchange. The Duke brothers have told their trader to buy orange juice futures, and to keep buying no matter how high the price goes.

The market opens, and the Duke brothers' trader starts buying. Everybody else sees this and thinks the Dukes know something. Suddenly, everybody's buying. The price goes up and up and up, and the Dukes keep buying.

Sell To The Suckers

Then comes the key line for the entire movie — a line that's almost unintelligible. Standing on the floor of the exchange, Winthorpe (Dan Aykroyd) yells out:

Sell 30 April at 142!
Here's what that means: He wants to promise to sell orange juice in April for $1.42 per pound. The "30" in his line means he wants to start by selling 30 contracts. (One contract = many, many pounds of OJ.) (Also, that "30" might be some other number. It's hard to understand what he's saying. But it doesn't really matter — they sell a lot of contracts.)

All the other traders think the price in April will be higher than $1.42. The traders mob Winthorpe and Valentine, agreeing to buy lots and lots of OJ from them at $1.42 a pound.

Wait For The Other Shoe To Drop

A minute later, everything on the trading floor goes quiet. Everybody looks at the TV. On the TV, the secretary of agriculture walks up to a podium and reads the orange crop report. The guy tells the world that the orange crop is fine.

Buy Low, Get Rich And Bankrupt Your Enemies

To the traders, this means that the price of OJ is not going to go through the roof. All those traders who, a minute ago, were buying all they could, now suddenly need to sell. So the price starts falling. When the price hits 29 cents a pound, Winthorpe and Valentine start agreeing to buy orange juice in April.

In other words, Winthorpe and Valentine have contracts allowing them to buy millions of pounds of orange juice in April for 29 cents a pound, and to sell it for $1.42 a pound. They sold high and bought low. They're rich. The Dukes made the opposite bet and went broke.

Bonus: The Eddie Murphy Rule

One interesting kicker to the story: Trading commodities on inside information obtained from the government wasn't actually illegal when the movie came out, but it's illegal now. It was banned in the 2010 finance-overhaul law, under a special provision often referred to as the Eddie Murphy Rule.

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They sold high and bought low.


Short high and covered low. Also the multiplier on futures is 1000...

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Thank you for providing this info! I've always had kind of an idea of what was happening, but I appreciate seeing the details about what the buyers and sellers were trying to accomplish.

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That scene makes so much more sense after reading your explanation. Thank you!

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Sell 30 April at 142!

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dude, I've watched this movie at least 25 times and I have never been able to catch that.

thanks.













Take your pinche color-coordinated sponsored chingada and take a flying fck

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I have also watched it a load of times. i guess i should have been pausing it during the trading scene instead of all the JLC scenes :)

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Thanks so much for the explanation. I love the movie and could tell Win and Val made a bunch of money, but never quite knew HOW they did it. Watching it 33 years later, I wonder how the stock trading works today with all the technology. Must be interesting......

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I am formerly known as HillieBoliday....Member since May 2006

Roobieroo.....I know absolutely nothing about the stock market and it's machinations; so thanks so much for your clear explanation! I watch this every chance I get because it's one of my favorite, and with the hopes of figuring out what all of that commotion on the trading floor means. Now I can watch it with a better understanding; enjoying it even more....Thanks Again!

"OOhhhooo....I'M GON' TELL MAMA!"

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One thing that has never made sense to me about that scene is how chaotic it is. How were they supposed to even know why they were buying from and selling to? They were just scribbling stuff on paper.

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At long last, enlightenment. After otherwise thoroughly enjoying this picture, but never quite grasping the mechanics of those final scenes, someone has finally stepped up and described how to understand what the hell was actually occurring on that trading floor.

I have visited this site several times over the years hoping that someone with commodities trading knowledge could provide this interpretation. Thank you for so generously sharing this explanation. I was/am woefully ignorant of this particular investment arena.

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Can't believe trading with inside information was legal. 😁
Also, this is the essence of The Big Short. Inflated OJ prices = bad mortgages.


"I'm not arguing that with you. I know he can get the job, but can he do the job?"

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