Guys,
I think the fear of O'brien and Moeno killing each other, could have been solved easily by putting Moreno in Solitary Confinement when he got to Rainford. Of course, than you would not have had the classic confrontation between them.
Or maybe Rainford had a policy that said you only went to Solitary Confinement for constant rules violations, or an ongoing threat to the inmates or staff.
Joe
Or at least for that last night, why take a chance?
Wagner is dumb.
"Cobra Kai? Say it...say it...NEVER DIES!" Karate Kid III
The setup for the final confrontation is my only beef with the movie. I will take it on faith that putting one or the other in solitary for a night wasn't an option due to the rules, e.g. without a specific instance of poor behavior one can't be put in solitary. My beef is the conversation between the warden and the other guy about Moreno getting his transfer approved and he's out tomorrow. Both of those guys were smart guys, and there's no way they would have a conversation with the inmate a few feet away from them mopping the floor. They would have gone behind closed doors and had the conversation, knowing that if the inmates got the information some stuff could / would go down.
It's a minor beef, this is a great movie.
Ive got a few beefs. Sean Penn being the top guy for more than a day. He was the 2nd smallest in there behind the kid.
The "corrosive" liquid spread thinly by a paint brush that melts through thick wire and leaves a perfect triangle shape in both fences for them to escape.
And yeh, the end could have been totally avoided any number of ways. Like the guy said above, separate one with solitary confinement. Or having the cell doors locked. having the lights on in the main room so we can see if anybody is sneaking around, if the doors have to be left open.
Not falling asleep an hour in when you know somebody is going to get killed. The kids trusting you to have his back when you asked him to do the right thing. After you fell asleep, not immediately trusting the guy you think is going to kill someone when they're out of their cell lying on the floor pretending to be in pain.
I was kind of shocked you could freely move around and the lights were off at night. They put a lot of trust in these criminals not to kill, assault and rape each other at night.
Anybody want to see a better version of this film you should watch Scum 1979. Much more realistic and gritty. My post about Scum is here
https://moviechat.org/tt0085210/Bad-Boys/6025b4356de94a2ff3c4e0e0/Has-its-similarities-with-the-British-film-Scum-1979
Good points. There's an implication though that the warders don't follow a lot of the rules however. Eg when we first see the prison we see the fines for smoking, but then the camera cuts to a shot of boys smoking. This suggests if one rule is allowed to be broken, perhaps the others are not that well enforced either. We also see in other shots the warders seem more interested in reading novels (or in one case, Playboy magazine) than watching their charges.
shareI was thinking the same thing, it was pretty obvious as a solution given we see scenes of those solitary areas beforehand. But I thought maybe they can't do that due to legal liability and/or their individual rights as prisoners or whatever they are classed as. It should have been suggested by a staff member and quickly dismissed as not an option in conversation if that was the case.
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