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The Thing organism is impossible


Molecules cannot be something and something else at the same time.

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*slowclap*

Finally, after almost 40 years a hero comes along and lets us know...

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Hey, 14% of Americans believe zombies are possible. Now as a matter of possibility, zombies are more likely than the Thing (zombie-like behavior is possible with fungi, parasites, nano machines etcetera). Just wanted to see if people have theories about how the thing organism could be possible, apart from including extra dimensional beings.

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"Hey, 14% of Americans believe zombies are possible."
Well, I can't argue with that.
But don't forget, The US is not the world.

My point was more that you are pointing out the *really* obvious, like... I'm tempted to address you as Captain, actually.
It's like you're on a science-con explaining that the earth is orbiting the sun...

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The Earth, Sun and all the planets are orbiting around the center of mass of the solar system. Maybe try again?

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What is there to try again?
I said the Earth orbits around the sun. this is 100% correct.

"Maybe try again?"

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I see. College can be expensive, I understand. Good luck anyway.

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Yea the sun is affected by the gravity of Jupiter etc creating a wobble, so the sun isn't the exact center..but that's just a technicality imo.

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Enlighten us, what is wrong about saying that Earth orbits the Sun?
Go ahead, we are all listening...

And no, college is not expensive here, not everyone lives in a country where access to education is difficult, like in your case obviously.

The sad thing is, you could at least be a decent human being, have manners, class - anything like that while you already suffer from sub-par education considering you dispute that the Earth orbits the Sun.
But you do not even have that.

All you do is acting like a total jerk, constantly.
Ask yourself if this is how you want to be remembered.

(And now, welcome to my ignore list. The only place where sad trolls should be.)

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14% seems surprisingly low to me , given the stats ive heard about how many americans believe they've been abducted by aliens ... but that was probly bullshit anyway

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Nah its real dude, don´t you know its based on a true story.

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It's real. Didn't you watch the movie. It imitates. That's how it does it.

Listen to Blair. It's science.

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Movie computer said so, true.

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Try telling that so MCU STANS who argue that Tony Stark's technology is "real world"

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Superman and all his powers, zombies (rotting corpses moving around despite their musceles receiving no oxygenating, nutrient-rich blood to fuel them); werewolves; 500 foot-tall, nuclear fire-breathing dragons; Iron Man's armor (flying hundreds of miles somehow, despite the armor carrying no fuel tanks that could possibly hold anything capable of providing the necessary amount of reaction mass...)

I could literally write pages of examples. The movies are full of things that are impossible. They're just movies. You're supposed to suspend disbelief for a couple of hours, and sit back and enjoy the ride.

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No need to write pages and pages. Some stuff in movies is possible, some stuff is not. Simple enough. But it would have been nice to have had a possible foe this time.

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If you want to make a movie with an organism that replicates other life forms, how do you make it "possible" in your eyes?

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I can't think of something believable. Maybe someone can.

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Just to put this into perspective, what sci-fi movies do you like?

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I just read a story by Peter Watts, "The Things" (2010) which tells the story of the movie from the viewpoint of the THING itself. The story was a Hugo finalist along with sundry other awards. I just bought a copy of the 2016 anthology Things From Outer Space, specifically to get this story. Watts has his own theory, which is pretty good, and the story is very cool.
I do not entirely trust the explanation provided in the film. It is built up hastily by a single scientist with limited information. I think we are dealing with something not unlike a virus, but colonial. It attacks cells and rebuilds them around its own essential "DNA" and attains sentience at some threshold of cell numbers. I suppose it might be capable of taking over an organism with a single THING cell, but it might be attacked by the bodies immune system (leucocytes might be capable of dealing with individual THING cells), and thus require some minimum number. This would render the finished THING-conversion cells only recognizable via something like the MacReady test or a DNA test as each THING cell would include not only the host DNA, but a fully functional THING "DNA" set. I parenthesize the THING "DNA" since it is not reasonable that it would actually be DNA, but rather some alien biological code, presumably containing a similar set of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, etc. It is possible also, that some special staining technique might make a THING cell nucleus apparent under a microscope.

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You mean this? http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/watts_01_10/


Yes it's nice fan fiction. And your theory is not bad. Thx!

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Whoops... Well, I got the book cheap.
And fan fiction that gets you a paycheck and awards is no longer just fan fiction.

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Whaddya mean, molecules can't be something and something else at the same time? Why would that necessarily be the case?

Molded silicone can mimic flesh extremely well under certain conditions, for example, but it is a completely different molecule.

Cuttlefish can look and move like a little kelp bed or whatever, but they have different molecules than kelp.

I don't think it's impossible. Many organisms on earth, including yourself and everyone here, does something that science can't explain yet: consciousness.

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