More movies like this


I miss Hollywood making movies adults (i.e., people over the age of 12) can appreciate. What are some recent movies that deal with real life subject matter in a way adults can appreciate?

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How 'recent'? This film is as old as I am. But it is a gem, for sure.

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Well, my point is studios don't make these sorts of movies anymore. If they do, they call them "independent" and put them out on their boutique labels (Fox Searchlight, etc.).

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Is it a problem how they market them? People not going to films like this has nothing to do with the branding (and I'd like to think that people who do like films like this also don't care about the branding).

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I don't think Hollywood cares about movies like this because they don't bring in the big bucks. They'd much rather ejaculate CGI shit all over the screen for 2 and a half hours and sell it to the brain-dead masses all over the world. Much more money in that.

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And they tend to have a more indie tone and feel to them, and are thus less accessible/appealing to 'mainstream' audiences, whereas something like Ordinary People feels like a major studio release, featuring a high-profile cast, and directed by one of the most famous men in Hollywood.

But I find that American film studios, including the indies, don't tend to make many family dramas in general. Such material is usually relegated to pappy and shallow TV movie fare, which lack the artistic integrity, the production values, and the depth of writing and acting, in Ordinary People (even in the wake of the film's Oscar success, it doesn't seem that many similar types of films were being made, apart from, maybe Terms of Endearment, and even that's more of a comedy-drama and somewhat broader than this).

French cinema seems to be more interested in these types of family dramas that anything I've seen in US film of late.

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As my username indicates, Ordinary People is my favorite movie of all time. And, sadly, Hollywood and audience tastes have changed. Gone are the days when a movie like Ordinary People can be a blockbuster. But back in 1980, people were lined up outside the theater to see this, Robert Redford's directorial debut the same as they now flock to the new Mario movie.

I think the place to find contemporary movies with the sensibility of Ordinary People is Netflix. Netflix and these other major streaming services can afford to green light these types of projects because they make so much money with their more mainstream productions. I can't think of an example off hand, but if you do a simple search, you'll find some good, understated dramas available to stream for free.

Otherwise, Hollywood has gone to hell in a hand basket. They ought to rename is Marvelwood or something. Fortunately, the internet and streaming has become the new forum for the 'auteur,' and these services are inexpensive enough for everyone to enjoy.

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"Netflix and these other major streaming services can afford to green light these types of projects because they make so much money with their more mainstream productions. I can't think of an example off hand, but if you do a simple search, you'll find some good, understated dramas available to stream for free."

The one I can think of, which is kind of similar, is Marriage Story (starring Scarlett Johansson and Adam Driver), in the sense of being a reasonably mature, sophisticated relationship drama, and, suffice to say, that was Netflix (although it was nice to see that it got a limited theatrical run).

It's true that subsidised/subscription services like the BBC and Netflix can afford to take the 'hits' on smaller, less 'commercial' fare, since they're already being paid for, and don't have to thus justify the commercial viability of every individual film/programme, but it's a shame, and I wish more studios would invest some of that superhero/franchise money into more 'personal' theatrical fare, because, quite frankly, films belong in the *cinema* and it generally shows when a film is made for the big screen or for TV (even in the case of a small-scale family drama like this).

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Yes, I was going to say the same thing. We shouldn't be forced to watch compelling dramas on television. It should be on the big screen.

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Yes, I agree, Sandy. Compelling dramas should not be relegated to the small screen (that sits on your knees). I don't know how old you are and it's none of my business, but at 46, I'm old enough to remember 'how it used to be.' That mentality, which invariably comes with age, I'm afraid is the engine behind this feeling all of us have. HarveyManFredSin, Marriage Story is an excellent example of what I was trying to say. Thank you. Back in the day that movie would be called Kramer vs. Kramer and Adam Driver would have won the Academy Award.

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There was some Netflix production with the so called actor Adam Driver and someone else (I forget) playing a divorced (/ divorcing?) couple.

Maybe something like that would count. Although of course you'd have to accept Adam Driver being in it and make that leap of faith in taking something with him in it seriously.

Edit: Sorry, just scanning through the above responses and someone else has mentioned that Adam Driver film. Marriage Story is what it was called. But it also has Scarlett Johansson in it, which I can only imagine would make the whole process of taking it seriously to near impossibility.

In which case, I'd go with The Ice Storm. But then, that's over twenty years old now...

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I was able to believe Adam Driver as a middle-aged father in that movie about the train derailment. I'll have to give Marriage Story a try.

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