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Am I the only one who laughed at this?


I saw Altered States last night, and I don't know about you, but I had a good giggle at some of the dialogue. It's okay for one character to use run-on sentences if it's consistent with their personality and/or situation, but in this film, practically EVERYONE uses them! I thought they got quite funny after a while.

And I couldn't help but laugh when the doctor, after examining the x-ray, says 'The guy's a f***ing gorilla!' Is that your scientific diagnosis? I mean; what kind of a doctor would say that when examining a patient?

I don't know why, but I also found it amusing when the dogs were chasing the ape-man.

I know it's not meant to be a comedy, but I thought these parts were quite funny.

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The doctor thing seemed fine to me. What would you say if you were shown an x-ray that showed basically something human with a bunch of simian characteristics? You're certainly right about the dialogue, though.

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You laughed because it was supposed to be funny. I thought that was a funny line. The other dialogue, the endless pseudo intellectual blather, was humorous too, albeit somewhat unintentionally.

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especially the part where he hits the elephant in the ead with a rock.

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all ken russells film are filled with humor. the devils and the music loveres are full of subtle humor that upon first viewing might pass you by due to the subject. altered states has much as well. when fellow scientists talk, their conversations will be quite different then when addressing the same issues with a pedestrian, as is the case when the dr. says,'this guys a f----g ape.he says this to other fellow drs. also the deliberate over talking or speaking with their mouth full was meant to have a humorous effect due to the technical comments being made using medical terms that no one would have understood unless they were also a scientist.it was mumbo jumbo banter, which as presented in the film makes it all the more humorous.

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WHAT???

Get drunk or die trying

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Yeah, I noticed that too. Going without shaving your armpit hair was practied briefly in the late 60's/early 70's by some feminists and intellectuals, especially in colleges. Since she would have been old enough to have been in college during this time, it's possible that she developed this desire to not shave. That's my theory anyway.

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"especially the part where he hits the elephant in the head with a rock."

I started laughing so hard at that part.

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THIS MOVIE SUCKED SO MUCH. I DARE ANYONE TO ARGUE

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Even funnier is when he nails that antelope/gazelle in the head with a rock - we get that ridiculous close-up of the thing just sitting there and then a rock flies out of nowhere and takes it out. I suggest pausing it and going through that shot frame by frame. Oh yeah, and uh, be stoned. Comic gold.

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sadder than taking the time to comment on this? is this your noble contribution to mankind? GOSH I wish my life was as exciting as yours.

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According to Netflix, Ken Russell "hated the dialogue but was contractually bound not to change it."

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I would've wanted to change it too. The plot was interesting, but the doctors didn't sound like doctors in a lot of the movie (which is a problem if the majority of the characters are doctors).

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I laughed near the end, when he turned into a giant, screaming turd. Now THAT was funny! But then again, I turned into a bird fart (they smell like worms, by the way. The farts, not the birds) once after eating several psilocybe cubensis mushrooms I found growing in a non-screaming turd...

And yeah, these docs were all hippy-era college students, still young and fresh out of med school in the '70s, and I know ALOT of them that talked like that back in the day.

Furthur...

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I am SO glad I'm not the only one who found this movie amusing. Not terrible or anything, but I couldn't help snickering a whole bunch. Then when I was reading a review of this movie and the special effects were described as "dazzling," I just about spewed my coffee. I wasn't all that dazzled by them but hey, to each his own.

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Blair Brown's tits are not pointless.

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Well it could be the fair share of THC that was in my system while watching this movie...But for some reason, I found the scene with those ancient indians that were creating the deliciously looking (/sarcasm) mushroom soup, incredibly intense and funny. Possibly one of the most hilarious scenes that I had the pleasure to view in my entire life. Those faces, man...And the orgasm gotta be the part of seeing them consuming that brew, that's just priceless.

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i wanted to find this movie "interesting" and "deep", but just couldnt take it seriously at all. I think it was due in equal parts to the dialogue, direction and
hehehe "special".. "effects"... i mean come on, they could do better than that in 1980

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im going to have to agree with you there

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This movie is a joke. A very very funny one.

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I was discussing this issue with my brother a couple of weeks ago, urging him to see the movie. I explained that he'd either dismiss it as a joke or see through the campiness of it and get something out of Chayefsky's ideas, as I did. I'll admit that when you combine gnostic mysticism with Ken Russell, you're going out on a limb. But if you know Chayefsky's work (The Hospital, Network, etc.) and realize how AS fits into his nightmare vision of a solipsistic society, it's really very satisfying. And it doesn't hurt to have a romantic streak as well.


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Hi, gnolti! Nice to bump into you. I just wanted to address something you said...

when you combine gnostic mysticism with Ken Russell, you're going out on a limb.
I thought this was curious, because to me it would seem a perfect fit. Care to elaborate on why you think otherwise?

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I'm not a huge Russell fan, although I'm in the cult minority who loves this movie. What I meant was that Russell is an overwhelmingly "visual" director -- to a fault. He orchestrates spectacles, and often plunges into camp. I don't think that's the kind of director that can handle gnostic -- i.e., inwardly contemplative -- ideas. (I distinguish gnosticism and mysticism, though that's just me.)

Kubrick or Boorman might have worked wonders with AS. But I enjoy it as it is.



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2.) Don't trust whitey.

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The interesting thing about Russell is that he's one of the few filmmakers whom people like and dislike for the same reasons. I cherish his tendency toward bombast, his love of a dirty joke, and his often radical re-interpretations of political/religious/cultural history, and so to me he seemed like a most natural choice to direct a film like Altered States (which, by the way, I personally think is one of his lesser films). What are some other Russell films you like?

And by the way, I wonder if you've seen this strange Greek film called Singapore Sling, and if so, what your thoughts on it were.

Young man, I think you're onto something... now climb off and let me have a turn.

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I liked The Devils, of course. And Mahler, and Gothic. It may be just a matter of taste.

What I think I'm getting at about Russell and AS is that I'm skeptical that a radical director needs to adapt a radical story to film. The risk of overkill. (I was reminded of this when I saw Demme's appalling remake of Manuchurian Candidate.) The point is moot, of course, since AS works.

Singapore Sling I haven't seen.



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2.) Don't trust whitey.

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What I think I'm getting at about Russell and AS is that I'm skeptical that a radical director needs to adapt a radical story to film. The risk of overkill.
I understand now, and I wouldn't say that that fear was totally unfounded, but as you observed it works quite well.

Let me recommend Singapore Sling, with one caveat: it's a really sick movie; but if you can (literally) stomach it, it's a really good tribute/sequel to -- and parody of -- Preminger's Laura.

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"And I couldn't help but laugh when the doctor, after examining the x-ray, says 'The guy's a *beep* gorilla!' Is that your scientific diagnosis? I mean; what kind of a doctor would say that when examining a patient?"


I can tell you --- that is the way highly educated people talk when they are around other highly educated people - they let it all hang out, they know that the others in the room are going to "get the joke". I am a psychologist. When I am in a room of people with PhDs they get fun and manic, after trying to appear completely rational and wise to patients all day long, who wouldn't want to finally get the chance to express? If you are not in the "club" they don't let you see them in this state. The way these researchers dealt with each other was very accurate and had extra humor for some of us.


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I saw it when it first came out back in 1980. All these years I only remembered the cool effects. Most of those hold up surprisingly well. The skin effects are still top-notch.

But damn, I didn't remember the film being so yappy. I suppose it's true to the idea that scientists talk a lot, but it feels like your watching a play.

It would've been nice to see a subtitle saying "5 years later" from when they agree to get married, and then cutting to San Francisco and they're getting a divorce. Like wtf? Clue us in a little more.

A 6 for the overall rating sounds about right.

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I'll take your comments with a grain of salt after looking over a few of your other posts in various threads.

Yours truly,
Spoon-Fed Idiot

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The transition from their marriage to their divorce/separation IS actually pretty damn clipped. No "5 Years Later" necessary.

These are "intellectuals" (for better of worse -- they're now known as "academics", though that's an insult to authentic intellectuals) who like to talk, and know how to put their thoughts and feelings into words. The same cannot be said of most moveigoers today. (Check out Network, an earlier film of Chayefsky's, which makes this fact of postmodern life a central theme.)

As I've pointed out, you have to be able to see and appreciate the metaphysical ideas in this story (however awkwardly executed in places by Ken Russell) to get AS.



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Several people on here made comments that they were smoking marijuana while watching this movie. Look, do whatever you want, but don't think I'm going to think you're cool. If you smoke marijuana, you are stupid. Not because it's so bad for you necessarily, but because it really is a stupid, pathetic thing to do.

Like I said, smoke up if that's what you really want to do, but you lose all credibility with me. I don't think you're cool - I think you're setting a bad example for your kids. Do you want your kids to be pot heads?

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Several people on here made comments that they were drinking beer while watching this movie. Look, do whatever you want, but don't think I'm going to think you're cool. If you drink beer, you are stupid. Not because it's so bad for you necessarily, but because it really is a stupid, pathetic thing to do.

Like I said, drink up if that's what you really want to do, but you lose all credibility with me. I don't think you're cool - I think you're setting a bad example for your kids. Do you want your kids to be alcoholics?

And another thing... I noticed that while you were all watching this movie, y'all weren't at church. The very least you could do is pause the movie every 10 minutes and read a few passages from The Bible... is that asking to much?

PLEASE... SOMEBODY... THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!

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Is this really subtle satire...

or does your mother *beep* dress you

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ALright i read too fast ...this a subtle satire.....to edward, the fellow you were ball busting..does hes mother dress him....im going for corderoy and pastels

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lol@spaceinvader, funny post. But I agree with Edward, smoking pot isn't cool or good. Its bad for your head.

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I have fond memories of going to see this on the big screen with my college roommates back in 1981. We had indulged in some of the aforementioned recreational activities to prepare for it. During the second major hallucination sequence, I remember looking over at 'B.' He was in a fetal position, uttering "oh God oh God."

Like Eddie, he discovered an enhanced experience can sometimes put you in touch with your spiritual side. The trick is to enjoy the ride safely and come out the other side with some new insights.

Like "Oreos taste better."

And "If I do this every night, my grades are probably going to suffer."

Also saw Timothy Leary speak on campus while I was getting my undergrad. One of his quotes applies:

"Moderation in everything. EVERYTHING in moderation."

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Well, Happy Space Invader is just SO clever... He actually played the church card!

Dude, I don't know where you lefty pot-heads come up with all this paranoia - oh, wait, yes I do...

Relax, Space, you can smoke all the marijuana you want... and you never even have to go to church if you don't want to!

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