For me, I'm about halfway through the Dark Tower series, and while I like them so far, I liked both 'Salem's Lot and The Stand a lot better. SL plays a part in the next book I'm going to read in the DT series, The Wolves of the Calla.
The Stand is my favorite SK book and film, with SL being a fairly close second.
It also rates a very honorable mention, and The Turtle from that book also plays a role in the DT series.
I have a very comprehensive list. I have been reading SK since 1981 (The Stand).
Novels Read: -'Salem's Lot -Bag of Bones -Black House -Cell -Christine -The Dark Half -The Dark Tower series -The Dead Zone -Desperation -Dolores Claiborne -Dreamcatcher -The Eyes of the Dragon -From a Buick 8 -Gerald's Game -The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon -The Green Mile series -Insomnia -It -Joyland -Lisey's Story -Misery -Needful Things -Pet Semetary -Rose Madder -The Shining -The Stand (both versions) -The Talisman -Tommyknockers -Under the Dome
Short Story Collections: -Different Seasons -Everything's Eventual -Four Past Midnight -Full Dark, No Stars -Hearts in Atlantis -Night Shift -Nightmares and Dreamscapes -Skeleton Crew
Bachman books: -Blaze -The Long Walk -Rage -The Regulators -Roadwork -The Running Man -Thinner
And here is the list of movies/TV shows I've seen (I split this into two posts):
-Carrie (1976) -Cat's Eye -Children of the Corn (1984) -Creepshow -Creepshow 2 -The Dark Half -The Dead Zone -Dolores Claiborne -Dreamcatcher -Graveyard Shift -The Green Mile -Hearts in Atlantis -The Mangler -Maximum Overdrive -Misery -The Mist -The Night Flier -Pet Semetary -The Running Man -Secret Window -The Shining (1980) -Silver Bullet -Stand By Me -Thinner -1408 -Bag of Bones -Desperation -It -The Langoliers -Quicksilver Highway -Sometimes They Come Back -The Stand -Storm of the Century -The Tommyknockers -Under the Dome
Carrie 'salem's Lot The Dead Zone The Stand Night Shift The Bachman Books Thinner The Regulators Firestarter Danse Macabre IT Cujo The Dark Tower series (5-7 pissed me off) Different Seasons Four Past Midnight Christine The Talisman Cycle of the Werewolf Skeleton Crew Misery The Tommyknockers Needful Things Desperation Gerald's Game Dolores Claiborne Nightmares and Dreamscapes Rose Madder The Green Mile Six Stories Bag of Bones Storm of the Century Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon On Writing Secret Windows Black House Everything's Eventual Under the Dome 11/22/63
Movies I've seen based on his works? All of them (though I've given up on both Haven and Under the Dome as series).
-- If I cannot smoke cigars in heaven, I shall not go!
'Salem's Lot Christine The Shining The Mist Night Shift Nightmares & Dreamscapes The Dead Zone [my personal favourite] Cell The Stand Skeleton Crew Dreamcatcher Four Past Midnight It The Tommyknockers Firestarter
about to start Dr Sleep
I have watched;
'Salem's Lot [both versions] Christine The Shining [both versions] The Mist The Dead Zone [both versions] The Stand Carrie [all three versions] Dreamcatcher Sleepwalkers Storm Of The Century 1408 Stand By Me The Shawshank Redeption Apt Pupil Hearts In Atlantis Rose Madder The Mangler The Lawnmower Man It The Tommyknockers Dolan's Cadillac Firestarter Thinner Misery The Green Mile Haven Under The Dome Desperation The Running Man Sometimes They Come Back
You can't palm off a second-rater on me. You gotta remember I was in the pink!
I just read Bag of Bones and thought it was fairly decent. I already had the DVD and felt it was pretty good. It was a real change of pace to see the actor William Schallert as the villain. Usually he plays such mild characters. The roles I associate him with were as Patty Duke's father and as Leander Pomphritt from Dobie Gillis. Perhaps a scientist called to consult in a sci-fi film. Something like that.
Carrie 'Salem's Lot The Shining Rage The Stand The Long Walk Night Shift The Dead Zone Firestarter Cujo Christine Pet Sematary Cycle of the Werewolf It Misery Gerald's Game Insomnia The Girl who Loved Tom Gordon On Writing Dreamcatcher Cell Lisey's Story Just After Sunset Under the Dome Blockade Billy Full Dark, No Stars 11/22/63 Joyland Doctor Sleep Mr Mercedes Revival Finders Keepers (currently reading)
As well as every one of the Dark Tower books, The Mist (from Skeleton Crew) and The Body (from Different Seasons).
As for films/mini-series, I've seen:
Carrie 'Salem's Lot The Shining Creepshow The Dead Zone Christine Firestarter Cat's Eye Stand By Me The Running Man Pet Sematary It Misery The Tommyknockers The Stand The Shawshank Redemption The Green Mile The Mist Carrie '13
I've also seen The Rage: Carrie 2, though it doesn't really count, and a few episodes of Under the Dome.
-- Fiery the angels fell. Deep thunder rolled around their shores, burning with the fires of Orc. --
Salem's Lot The Shining Night Shift The Dead Zone The Long Walk Cujo The Running Man Pet Sematary Thinner Misery
I pretty much liked all of them except for maybe Cujo, which started out and ended well but dragged on too much in the middle and had some subplots that went nowhere.
Salem's Lot and Pet Sematary are my joint favourites.
Salem's Lot (read the book and have seen both mini-series, and the sequel) Cycle of the Werewolf (read the book and have seen Silver Bullet) Creepshow comic (read the comic illustrated by Bernie Wrightson and have seen Creepshow and Creepshow II) The Eyes of the Dragon (read the book, Randall Flagg for the win!) The Long Walk (read it) Rage (read it) Roadwork (read it) The Running Man (read the book and have seen the movie) The Dark Tower: The Gunslinger (read the book, and started The Drawing of the Three. Didn't like the series, didn't read the rest) The Stand (read the book, the unabridged, the Marvel comic series and have seen the mini-series) Carrie (read the book and have seen the movie) Cell (read it) Nightmares & Dreamscapes (short stories) Skeleton Crew (short stories) Night Shift (short stories)
Christine, It, Pet Semetary, The Tommyknockers, Rose Red, The Shining, The Dead Zone, Firestarter, Cujo, Thinner, Misery, The Dark Half, Needful Things, Delores Claiborne, The Green Mile, Desperation, Dreamcatcher, Riding the Bullet (have seen these movies, but didn't read the books)
Salem's Lot (read the book and have seen both mini-series, and the sequel) Cycle of the Werewolf (read the book and have seen Silver Bullet) Creepshow comic (read the comic illustrated by Bernie Wrightson and have seen Creepshow and Creepshow II) The Eyes of the Dragon (read the book, Randall Flagg for the win!) The Long Walk (read it) Rage (read it) Roadwork (read it) The Running Man (read the book and have seen the movie) The Dark Tower: The Gunslinger (read the book, and started The Drawing of the Three. Didn't like the series, didn't read the rest) The Stand (read the book, the unabridged, the Marvel comic series and have seen the mini-series) Carrie (read the book and have seen the movie) Cell (read it) Nightmares & Dreamscapes (short stories) Skeleton Crew (short stories) Night Shift (short stories)
While I liked the DT series, and I'm glad to have read it, it was far from my favorite SK work. King considers the DT series to be his best writing.
Just curious: how did you like The Stand? It is my favorite by King and one of my favorites by any writer.
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I have read that SK considers The Dark Tower series his best writing. But then again, I've heard him say that Salem's Lot is his favorite novel of his own work.
The Stand is great. Wordy, but great. SK can spend two hundred pages describing the autumns in Maine.
I have read that SK considers The Dark Tower series his best writing. But then again, I've heard him say that Salem's Lot is his favorite novel of his own work.
The Stand is great. Wordy, but great. SK can spend two hundred pages describing the autumns in Maine.
Good point. On the board for the 1994 adaptation, it was facetiously suggested one time that King must have been paid by the word, because he sure puts a lot of them in his books, especially his later works.
But I don't have a lot of room to talk there. My own novel, The Pale Horse, is over 1400 pages in length.
Anyway, why don't you check out the board for The Stand?
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I have recently finished reading 'The Stand' for the second time (the first time was in 1997.)
I have to say that my thoughts on the novel remain much as they were the first time that I read it.
'The Stand' is absolutely impressive in it's length, depth and scope and it contains some excellent writing and yet - from my personal point of view - it is far from being my favourite Stephen King novel.
Even more recently I have re-read 'The Dead Zone' I have to say that the tone of the book is 'sombre' to say but the least and the main character of Johnny Smith is the very epitome of a 'doomed' and 'tragic hero' who is continually attempting to do the right thing as events are set against him and the wheels of the universe seem to transpire against him to grind together and incidentally grind him to dust in the process.
'The Dead Zone' is very well written and thought provoking literature indeed, but it is both solemn and sombre to the bitter end.
I have recently finished reading the short story 'Hearts in Atlantis' from the book of the same name, and I have to say that I think it is a very well written not to mention emotive piece of work indeed.
Stephen King (In the guise of his youthful avatar 'Peter Reily') tells the story of how several escapist activities - including a seemingly endless tournament of the card game 'Hearts' (The 'Hearts' of the title) - took over and nearly destroyed his academic career within his first year of university.
The story stuck a chord with me, because at a time I was supposed to be getting an education something similar happened to me as well, although truth be told, I was never obsessed with playing cards.
The story is excellent stuff and I highly recommend it.
That leads me onto my next topic for discussion as follows:
Has anyone either got or read the latest King Book 'Hearts in Suspension'?
Apparently it is only available from the University of Maine press, and it is not listed as part of Stephen King's bibliography.
As a result I have not yet read it, but I would be interested in hearing from anyone that has for a review.
Is Hearts in Atlantis part of a collection or what? I have heard of it, but not read either it or a synopsis.
Also, I am just about to finish the rough draft of a short story about an act of terrorism. I don't have a title for it yet, though. I just got a new laptop and I had Radio Shack to put the word program in it so I'm busy off and on typing it in from the longhand I used to write the majority of it. I note with a certain wryness that laptops do take a bit of getting used to.
I use fountain pens a lot and I edit with them as well and some people in the medical field were very very concerned when I came into their office with a lot of red ink on my hands. They thought I had hurt myself.
Is Hearts in Atlantis part of a collection or what? I have heard of it, but not read either it or a synopsis.
That is a rather good question and I will attempt an explanation.
The Book 'Hearts in Atlantis' is a collection of five interlocking stories as follows:
1 Low Men in Yellow Coats (1960) 2 Hearts in Atlantis (1966) 3 Blind Willie (1994) 4 Why We're in Vietnam 5 Heavenly Shades of Night Are Falling
From Wikipedia:
'Hearts in Atlantis (1999) is a collection of two novellas and three short stories by Stephen King, all connected to one another by recurring characters and taking place in roughly chronological order.
The stories are about the baby boomer generation, specifically King's view that this generation (to which he belongs) failed to live up to its promise and ideals.
Significantly, the opening epigraph of the collection is the Peter Fonda line from the end of Easy Rider: "We blew it." All of the stories are about the 1960s and the war in Vietnam, and in all of them the members of that generation fail profoundly, or are paying the costs of some profound failure on their part.'
The first (and longest) is 'Low Men in Yellow Coats' which has strong connections with Stephen Kings 'Dark Tower' mythos (Incidentally I have not read any of the DT novels.)
The second story - in my opinion the very best of a good bunch (see my previous post) - is 'Hearts in Atlantis' which gives its name to the book.
The stories (in roughly chronological order) are all interlocking and all of the protagonists have met at some time and / or had a relationship with another female character, namely Carol Gerber.
N.B the 2001 movie entitled 'Hearts in Atlantis' has little / nothing to do with the story of the same name. It is in fact a contraction of the stories 'Low Men in Yellow Coats' and 'Heavenly Shades of Night Are Falling.'
A consequence of the changes is that the film's title is completely impenetrable to those unfamiliar with the book, although a snatch of dialogue attempts to remedy this: Ted remarks that childhood is a lost city like Atlantis.
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I am glad that the 'injuries' to your hands were nothing more serious than red ink. If you are interested in having the story read and / or proof-read then drop me a line and let me know, as I promise to commit some time to it, even if you are only looking for some honest and constructive criticism.
Think it over and let me know.
Back 'On Topic': I sincerely recommend the story 'Hearts in Atlantis' from the book. It strikes a chord with me as I went through some of the same dramas while I was supposed to be getting an education (but like I say I never really played cards.)
Is Hearts in Atlantis part of a collection or what? I have heard of it, but not read either it or a synopsis.
That is a rather good question and I will attempt an explanation.
The Book 'Hearts in Atlantis' is a collection of five interlocking stories as follows:
1 Low Men in Yellow Coats (1960) 2 Hearts in Atlantis (1966) 3 Blind Willie (1994) 4 Why We're in Vietnam 5 Heavenly Shades of Night Are Falling
From Wikipedia:
'Hearts in Atlantis (1999) is a collection of two novellas and three short stories by Stephen King, all connected to one another by recurring characters and taking place in roughly chronological order.
The stories are about the baby boomer generation, specifically King's view that this generation (to which he belongs) failed to live up to its promise and ideals.
Significantly, the opening epigraph of the collection is the Peter Fonda line from the end of Easy Rider: "We blew it." All of the stories are about the 1960s and the war in Vietnam, and in all of them the members of that generation fail profoundly, or are paying the costs of some profound failure on their part.'
The first (and longest) is 'Low Men in Yellow Coats' which has strong connections with Stephen Kings 'Dark Tower' mythos (Incidentally I have not read any of the DT novels.)
The second story - in my opinion the very best of a good bunch (see my previous post) - is 'Hearts in Atlantis' which gives its name to the book.
The stories (in roughly chronological order) are all interlocking and all of the protagonists have met at some time and / or had a relationship with another female character, namely Carol Gerber.
N.B the 2001 movie entitled 'Hearts in Atlantis' has little / nothing to do with the story of the same name. It is in fact a contraction of the stories 'Low Men in Yellow Coats' and 'Heavenly Shades of Night Are Falling.'
A consequence of the changes is that the film's title is completely impenetrable to those unfamiliar with the book, although a snatch of dialogue attempts to remedy this: Ted remarks that childhood is a lost city like Atlantis.
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I am glad that the 'injuries' to your hands were nothing more serious than red ink. If you are interested in having the story read and / or proof-read then drop me a line and let me know, as I promise to commit some time to it, even if you are only looking for some honest and constructive criticism.
Think it over and let me know.
Back 'On Topic': I sincerely recommend the story 'Hearts in Atlantis' from the book. It strikes a chord with me as I went through some of the same dramas while I was supposed to be getting an education (but like I say I never really played cards.)
Cheers for now.
Hey, Mr E, I don't know why I didn't think about looking it up on Wiki until after I posted to you but afterwards I did so and found what Hearts is about. Silly of me, I know. I bet I might like it, as I liked the DT series and it sounds quite similar to that.
Right now, I'm waiting for a friend who is a pilot to fill me on on some technical aviation details and while I'm waiting on that, I'm typing what I have in longhand into the word program in my new laptop. I can do the legal stuff (Hostage negotiations, interviewing witnesses, etc.) as well as the guns (of course!) pretty well, as some of my background and interests is in that stuff.
Looking back on the red ink thing, it is really rather amusing. From their standpoint a chap comes into their clinic with very red hands, and they react like medical people are supposed to react. The fountain pen had a bad leak and I sent it back to the repair facility in New England, (in fact, I had just posted it not more than ten minutes before) and they fixed it under warranty, but I have to remember to store it upright.
Be that as it may, in between the Cornish writer, Colin Wilson, and his fascinating true mysteries, and a couple of other books, I am currently reading the version of The Stand that takes place in 1980. It dispenses with much of the wordiness of the 1990 full version, but like the C&U version, it is poorly edited, if at all, and it has stuff that if you have not read the C&U version, you likely would not not know what in the hell SK is talking about.
Still, The Stand remains my favorite SK book. SL is a close second, however.
PS I'll let you know via PM when I get the story I'm working on ready, and then you can read it if you want.
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I'll let you know via PM when I get the story I'm working on ready, and then you can read it if you want.
OK, that is fine and good any time you are ready, just drop me a PM, when you want. I promise to commit some time to the work, and to have something constructive to say.
Wow. Okay I'll have a go. I'm going to include the Bachman Books
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The Stand The Shining Night Shift Dumas Key The Dead Zone Dreamscapes and Nightmares The Regulators Desperation Skeleton Crew The Bachman Books Different Seasons Four Past Midnight IT Hearts In Atlantis Full Dark No Stars Danse Macabre The Green Mile Cell
Watched Salem's Lot (1979 & 2004) The Shining (1980 & 1997) The Stand The Langoliers Carrie Lawnmower Man A Good Marriage Desperation Shawshank Redemption The Green Mile Mist 11/22/63 IT (1990 mini-series) Needful Things Dreamcatcher Bag of Bones Silver Bullet Hearts In Atlantis Rose Red Thinner The Mangler Stand By Me Dolores Claiborne Misery Pet Semetary Christine Children of the Corn The Night Flier Secret Window 1408 Apt Pupil Kingdom Hospital Storm of the Century The Tommyknockers
Recently watched 11.22.63. It was pretty good and it also reasonably faithful to the book. The major differences seemed to be a greatly expanded role for Bill Turcotte and one scene was changed from Derry, Maine, to a small town in Kentucky.
I recently watched the 1984 movie 'Children of the Corn' and I have to say I enjoyed it as a kid, but recently thought of it as one of the most BORING horror movies ever.
All the kids in the town of Gatlin NE murder the adults in the town within the first 5 minutes of a 92 minute movie.
Burt and Vicky (trainee doctor and fiance Peter Horton and Linda Hamilton respectively) come across the body of a recently murdered boy, and then for reasons known only to themselves, and for bizarre rules that govern horror movie screenwriting, they completely refuse to leave and...
NOTHING happens for almost 75 more minutes.
Then the demon / false god / entity referred to as 'He who walks behind the rows' puts in an appearance and destroys the whole place. Our adult heroes and two 'good' kids walk away unscathed.
And lest we not forget all of this has happened to ensure a successful corn harvest.
Big deal.
Excuse me for stating the extremely obvious here but CotC has my vote for the single most BORING horror move ever made.
I recently watched the 1984 movie 'Children of the Corn' and I have to say I enjoyed it as a kid, but recently thought of it as one of the most BORING horror movies ever.
All the kids in the town of Gatlin NE murder the adults in the town within the first 5 minutes of a 92 minute movie.
Burt and Vicky (trainee doctor and fiance Peter Horton and Linda Hamilton respectively) come across the body of a recently murdered boy, and then for reasons known only to themselves, and for bizarre rules that govern horror movie screenwriting, they completely refuse to leave and...
NOTHING happens for almost 75 more minutes.
Then the demon / false god / entity referred to as 'He who walks behind the rows' puts in an appearance and destroys the whole place. Our adult heroes and two 'good' kids walk away unscathed.
And lest we not forget all of this has happened to ensure a successful corn harvest.
Big deal.
Excuse me for stating the extremely obvious here but CotC has my vote for the single most BORING horror move ever made.