I haven't seen the film, but I do wanna know how they killed the turtle....I mean I don't think it makes a horrible sound like the pig squeal which to me is just as sad as a dog's cry...
shareThey cut it's head off first. The movement is electrical
Only those with no valid argument pick holes in people's spelling and grammar.
Well, in my opinion, it ain't THAT bad if they killed it first. Still, exectuing a real animal on camera is wrong.
sharedisagree
more than 8 billion chickens are killed for their flesh each year
so, what is one turtle compared to that holocaust
they first cut of the turtles head, then the legs, then the tail, watch again if you dont believe me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43MVUKP5czk
To murder and to kill for a movie or for a cloth - in some cases species that are in extinction - and to create animals for rapidly kill for food are different things (even if animal creation with this purpose isn't nice too).
shareand what gives humans the right to do that?
________________________
| Musa sapientum fixa sum |
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
all the animals that were killed on screen were given to the native actors as food
sharethey jsut cut it apart for food.
tbh its nothing spectacular, yes quite disgusting because its a real animal. but their killing it and then eating it, isnt that what we do anyway just not on camera?
[deleted]
I should add that it wasn't a pet-sized turtle (so to speak) but a really big one. As big as a grown man's torso.
http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=19982510share
[deleted]
not a tortoise. they pulled it out of a river.
Did They Teach You That At Whore Academy?
[deleted]
I enjoy this film, but the turtle scene is really shocking. There's a rat-like rodent they stab through the chin, which disturbed me too. I wasn't expecting to see live animals being executed.
In the turtle scene (as described by an above poster) they have some really freaky music.
If you want, take a look.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43MVUKP5czk
It was a yellow-spotted river turtle, and the rodent was a coatimundi.
Did They Teach You That At Whore Academy?
I have have watched any and every kind of horror movie there is but that scene did it for me.I told myself it couldnt be that bad and watched it through that link.when they decapitated the poor thing I felt a jolt through my body and a horrible headache following it.No other scene in history has ever hit me that.I agree,we really didn't need that scene.still in shock.Still want to see the film though.(without the animals)I can handle everything else.
Esther-"My eyes weren't blue,they were brown!"
Fred-"How would you like two black ones?"
Still want to see the film though.(without the animals)I can handle everything else.
You have no idea. Watch it
@FreddyGSanford I got goosebumps and pain in my feet, which is how my body reacts when I'm shocked by something. I'm no horror buff, but there aren't many times when I have that reaction. At least with a horror movie you know that it's not real, not with that scene though.
shareI have have watched any and every kind of horror movie there is but that scene did it for me.I told myself it couldnt be that bad and watched it through that link.when they decapitated the poor thing I felt a jolt through my body and a horrible headache following it.No other scene in history has ever hit me that.I agree,we really didn't need that scene.still in shock.Still want to see the film though.(without the animals)I can handle everything else.Being on the internet, it's surprising to some degree that you've never seen any disturbing videos of real murders, accidents, etc. I guess if you never search for that kind of stuff you can avoid it, but usually someone, somewhere gives a link or talks about something (like the various beheadings) horrible either caught on tape, or intentionally filmed. Once you see that stuff, every horror movie in existence seems TAME by comparison.
yes quite disgusting because its a real animal.As opposed to a fake animal?
[deleted]
I've seen plenty of real human deaths on film. Me and a couple friends were on that kick in college. We took every opportunity to watch. anything from beheadings to falls from buildings and mountains to the suicide of that politician which seemed staged because it was filmed in such loving detail as his blood gushed in a torrent from his mouth.
I barely flinched from any of it.
However, the muskrat and turtle scenes from CH were worse than all of those to me.
Probably because I believe in the future of the Earth and prefer humans die instead of animals.
.
Yeah I was like wtf when they killed that rodent. So unnecessary, nothing artistic about it. Pathetic. Needless to say, I didn't make it much further in the movie.
I can understand when a film has some controversial animal abuse scenes, like in Andrei Rublev, when it adds to the story, symbolism or characterization of the movie in some way. But this was just straight up sensationalism. A gory gimmick so sickos can watch an animal being killed.
[deleted]
oh my gosh.....i couldnt watch it i had to look away
its terrible what they do to that turtle and i think its the worst of all the animal killings the monkey coming in second.
[deleted]
Yea, you know I agree with you. (Although, come on...you can understand the sympathy and revulsion people have over the animal scenes, right?)
Those animals were killed for food, would have been killed for food anyway. Animals kill each other constantly, and people kill animals for food constantly. Right this second I'm sure there is a ton of nasty stuff going on - which is one reason why this film is so important, it makes you think, it forces you to think, it confronts you weather you're ready for it or not.
If the animal killing scenes bother anyone so much, then should absolutely be a vegan and never, ever use animal products of any kind ever again if they are so against these scenes. Personally I'm not, I eat meat and I understand and know and respect where my food comes from.
But if you protest against the turtle/monkey/river rat scene, then you go eat McDonalds or something, then you're just a hypocrite.
You've got the touch! You've got the power!
You're wrong! It's real torture, mutilation and murder. People also get killed everyday: would it make it acceptable in a movie? Animal creation for food can be really protestable, it's part of discussing ways of life, but it's still very different from mutilating and killing an animal for a movie. And to be sensitive with this doesn't mean you don't care for other cruelties!
shareYea, you know I agree with you. (Although, come on...you can understand the sympathy and revulsion people have over the animal scenes, right?)
Those animals were killed for food, would have been killed for food anyway. Animals kill each other constantly, and people kill animals for food constantly. Right this second I'm sure there is a ton of nasty stuff going on - which is one reason why this film is so important, it makes you think, it forces you to think, it confronts you weather you're ready for it or not.
If the animal killing scenes bother anyone so much, then should absolutely be a vegan and never, ever use animal products of any kind ever again if they are so against these scenes. Personally I'm not, I eat meat and I understand and know and respect where my food comes from.
But if you protest against the turtle/monkey/river rat scene, then you go eat McDonalds or something, then you're just a hypocrite.
You've got the touch! You've got the power!
But if you protest against the turtle/monkey/river rat scene, then you go eat McDonalds or something, then you're just a hypocrite.That's funny, because I actually WORK at McDonald's but for some reason can't remember the last time I tortured and killed a live animal while filming it for entertainment purposes. I also love and respect this movie, but that comparison you made was a bit ridiculous. Sure these animals were used for food later, but the sole purpose of killing them was to make a movie. I find that a bit repulsive. And it's not like they were killed instantly with no pain either, most of them were struggling and fighting for their lives which is absolutely horrible. I'm sure the animals that are butchered and made into burgers aren't exactly treated well either, but again this is solely for food and not entertainment purposes. The people who eat at McDonald's don't have to witness cows being slaughtered and made into burgers, now do they? Sorry if I sound a bit preachy here but I thought I would contribute my thoughts to this conversation. I am also not protesting this great film.
The animals weren't tortured, the monkey and turtle were killed instantly.
Working at mcdonalds has to a worse horror than any movie ever could be.
You've got the touch! You've got the power!
Still it was for entertainment purposes. They basically died for nothing. And that rodent's death looked alot like torture to me.
And you couldn't be more right about working at McDonald's.
Horror_Metal
Still it was for entertainment purposes. They basically died for nothing
THE TURTLE SCENE IS DOWNRIGHT DISTASTEFUL. They didn't cut off the head first, they cut off the tail- they didnt cut off the head until the very end. That's where the problem lies. The rest of the animals were killed quickly for food. They weren't tortured first. No, they didnt die quite as quickly as they could have in some cases, but it was still pretty damn fast. In my opinion, the killing of animals on camera should definitely be allowed, if its in the same style as that of, say, Apocalypse Now. Yes, a real animal is dying, but in reality it's not for the sake of entertainment, and it was going to die in the exact same way, regardless of whether there was a film crew ther to witness it or not. instant or nearly instant death is not cruel, even when it's filmed. It happens. But torturing animals on camera for pleasure is just simply not acceptable.
shareThe turtle's head was decapitated first before any other part. The body continued to move and spasm because of nerves.
shareThe monkey scene was filmed twice, so one of those monkeys did die for entertainment purposes.
"A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan
haha, you think they use cows in McDonalds burgers?
which is one reason why this film is so important, it makes you think, it forces you to think, it confronts you weather you're ready for it or not.
Well, in a total exploitation/grindhouse/sleazoid way, it pretty much is. So yeah.
-------------------------
"It's better not to know so much about what things mean." David Lynch
Hmm I don't know any movies where the women were ACTUALLY raped for real in order to film the rape scene, do you? That is why the animal killing scenes in this movie are so horrible and shocking to so many people. It's one thing to watch rape, murder, torture, and mutilation in movies knowing full well that it is all FAKE, and that it's just a movie. It's a completely different thing to watch a movie and know that 7 animals were really killed and that you are actually watching their deaths happen on screen. I don't care if the animals were eaten afterwards or not (do we really know for sure that they were actually eaten??), it still doesn't make it right to kill animals for entertainment purposes and the fact that they killed the animals and filmed it and we watch their deaths happen on screen feels very exploitative to me. The director even said he regrets doing this so that tells you something. Something just doesn't feel right about watching the animal killings in this movie and the thing that sucks for me is that I would absolutely love this movie if those animal killings weren't real. CH is a great movie with a great message and it's the kind of movie I typically like but the real animal killing scenes just did not allow me to enjoy the movie as much as I would have if they were not in fact real. The thing that bothers me is that they didn't HAVE to kill the animals for the movie, they could have used special effects like every other movie does. They didn't really chop a dudes penis off or drive a pole through a woman's body or rape a woman with a rock, so why did they HAVE to kill a bunch of animals for real!
share
I was quite shocked at the turtle scene. and it was pretty big one too
"Your suffering will be legendary, even in hell." - Pinhead, Hellraiser 2
I couldnt watch it, I just covered my eyes and asked my sister "is it over yet?". So, i can't explain any of the animal killing scenes. But i have to say it again (i just came from other thread about this topic) I think it's wrong to kill and abuse animals or humans for entertaining reasons.
shareVisit here:
http://www.jeffandcourtney.com/jeff/photography/pics/Turtle_Stew_Cayma n_Islands.jpg
i kill spiders all the time in my house and dont eat them.look at all the real animal deaths on youtube or surviour man.....
share