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The First Hour Makes the Movie, Period.


I don't know why I'm surprised. Really, I should have my damned head examined.

It didn't occur to me that people would flock to this board to tell the world how utterly boring this movie is. In particular, that they were exasperated to near-insanity by the lengthy wedding sequence that opens the film.

Post after post after post after post. LOL The Weddng is SSOSSOOOOOOOOOOO long and SSSSOOOOO BORINGGGGGGG...put me to sleep and I never fall asleep in movies. OMFG! Nothing happens! The editor must've been aslepp 2 LMFAO I woke up when they got to Vietnam and De Niro fired up his flamethrower -- PWNED!!! I guess you had to see it in the sixties or whenever it was made, etc.

I suppose there are at least as many people defending the film (and its terrific first hour), but I must be experiencing some form of "temporary insanity", because I'm so blinded with uncomprehending rage that I scarcely notice them.

Why do people feel compelled to share their lack of cinematic taste or anything resembling a decent attention span with complete strangers? Are they not embarrassed? Has no one had a "stupidity intervention" with them? It must be hard enough on their own families. I mean, if it were me, I'd be hiding in a cave in East Jesus, hoping that no one ever asks my opinion about anything.

Differences of opinion are fine. Using IMDb as a virtual megaphone to shout odes dedicated to one's own ignorance is not. But most of us have learned to accept this, because we feel you can't have one without the other. Maybe not.

Anyway, others have said as much, but it bears repeating: The first hour is brilliant because it, at first glance, seems to be about nothing but "ordinary life". By the end of the film, the importance of these scenes has been revealed, and the viewer has (hopefully) come to understand that so-called "ordinary life" is what it's all about. The shattering experience of Vietnam would mean nothing -- nothing -- without the wonderfully textured representation of Steelmill, America and the characters who inhabit it. Their worlds have been all but destroyed, and we need to be able to see those worlds in order to appreciate this fact.

Furthermore, and Cimino's real trick here, it's actually filled with story. Every moment, every line, every gesture of that first hour adds to the impact of the whole. It makes me shudder to think that we were almost stuck with 20 minute "compromise" version of the first act.

I feel better now.

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Thank you for that eloquent and well articulated post! I've had very similar, if not exact, thoughts about this brilliant film and the mind-numbing comments from the moron generation.

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""""" Why do people feel compelled to share their lack of cinematic taste or anything resembling a decent attention span with complete strangers? Are they not embarrassed? Has no one had a "stupidity intervention" with them? It must be hard enough on their own families. I mean, if it were me, I'd be hiding in a cave in East Jesus, hoping that no one ever asks my opinion about anything.

The shattering experience of Vietnam would mean nothing -- nothing -- without the wonderfully textured representation of Steelmill, America and the characters who inhabit it """""

your post is so unbelievably pretentious, just because people don't like the first hour why do you assume its because of them having some kind of inferior attention span, Lawrence Of Arabia, Once Upon A Time In The West are both long and dragged out and two of my favourites,

The reason why i hate most of the first hour is the the horribly annoying mother of steve, the terrible choir music that goes on forever, besides Michael, Nick there was'nt even anything remotely likeable about the others, and there is literally barely any time used to show the closeness of Michael and Nick most of it was just dancing, dancing and more dancing.


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You like to be really subjective do you?

Why? why? why? and why?

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OK, so you didin´t like the choir music and you didn´t like Steve´s mother. Fine by me. However, the dancing most assuredly didn´t take up "most of it" - more like 1/5 of the first act at best. And "only" 2 likeable characters? That´s 2 more than in several other masterful works of film. Also, I think the relationships between the local folk, including between Mike and Nick, were quite sufficiently developed or defined.



"facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan

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Agree - the most important events in the film involve what took place before the three men went to Vietnam. It's there that we learned what they had to lose by risking it all. In particular, the hunting trip made it obvious that the stoical Michael would be the only one of the three to make it out of the war more or less in one piece, mentally and physically (unlike the sensitive Nicky and the irresponsible Steve).

To drive that point home, I think that they should have had Stanley (John Cazale's character, as usual a pathetic loser) drafted too, and have him be the first casualty of the four.

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AMEN!! You are absolutely correct. The first hour of The Deer Hunter is glorius. The entire movie is still a masterpiece and has held up beautifully over the years. I would like to see "Breaking Dawn" and "Twilight" say the same thing in 35 years. Long live Michael, Nick, Stevie & Linda and especially Michael Cimino for creating this film for me to grow old with, which I am doing. I saw it in the theatre in 1978, wore out several VCR tapes over the years and now I am so lucky to have the Blu-Ray DVD. They will live in my soul forever. This is who we were in 1978. I sure would have loved to attend that wedding reception!

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I see where you're coming from. And you're right, not because these "modernists" don't like to be bored, but because they are bored by what most people are interested in.

I agree that the first part is the best part. It is the hunting trips that make this movie something better.

If anything, the scenes with the Russian roulette players are the most boring. Of course they are needed to show that there are dorks who actually are excited by these contests. I guess they're the same dorks who think the first part of the movie is boring.

While I'm not into all the drama, I just can't see how the rest of the film could be enjoyed on its own merits. No one cares, unless they can care about characters. Well, maybe I'm wrong. There ar bubble boys who are afraid that "character revelation" will hit too close to home, and only want to see the mindless boggle.


Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time.

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Sorry, but the first hour of the film is indeed boring, repetitive, and doesn't add a damn thing to the viewer's understanding or appreciation of the point the Diretor is trying to make regarding "normal life." It could have indeed been cut to 20 minutes with no loss whatsoever.

The Deer Hunter is an ok film. It is not a great film. Best Picture? How absurd.






Remember When Movies Didn't Have To Be Politically Correct?

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ABetterDay - Did you ever see "Gone with the Wind"? It also started with a party before the men went to war. Both these films defined the characters in the first hour. Can you imagine GWTW without the party announcing Ashley and Melanie's engagement? Was that scene unecessary? Should it have been cut? Both these films tell important stories about difficult times in our American history, and both do it exceptionally well and deserve the Best Picture honor they were awarded. Is the art of developing characters becoming a lost art because people only want video game style movies for entertainment? That is sad.

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We saw the film at the drive-in when it first came out. And all we talked about on the way home was how good the movie was except for "how long" the wedding was.

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