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best performance by an actor not to win the Oscar


I consider Pacino's performance in this to be one of the greatest performances not to win the Oscar. Unfortunately he had the bad luck of doing this the same year that One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest won everything (and Jack did deserve it). Anybody agree?

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Jon Voight (Runaway Train) losing to William Hurt (Kiss Of The Spider Woman) in 1985. Al Pacino (Serpico) and Jack Nicholson (The Last Detail) to Jack Lemmon (Save The Tiger) in 1973.

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but william hurt was great in kiss of the spider woman.

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The best performance ever not t win an OSCAR is SERPICO!!!!!!!!! IMO

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"He lost to Art Carney in some BS film nobodys even heard of"

Maybe you should rent the movie Harry and Tonto, then make your opinion.





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as much as i enjoyed Al Pacino's performance in Godfather Part II, i dont think he had a chance to win that oscar. I personally thought Jack Nicholson's performance in Chinatown was much better than Pacinos. i also believe that Jack Nicholson deserved the oscar for one flew over the cuckoo's nest over pacino's performance in dog day afternoon.

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I love Jack and I find his acting in Chinatown really wonderful. But Pacino is on another Plaent, both in Godfather part II and in this one.

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Who gives a @#$ if Nicholson was better in one flew over the cuckoo's nest or Chinatown (both great films great performances) ... Al Pacino is the greatest actor of all time! Either u like it or not. Period

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IMO the best performance by an actor not to win an oscar is Edward Norton's in American History X and Don CHeadle's in Hotel Rwanda!

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Al Pacino in The Godfather Part II without a doubt.

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Jon Voight (Runaway Train) losing to William Hurt (Kiss Of The Spider Woman) in 1985. Al Pacino (Serpico) to Jack Lemmon (Save The Tiger) in 1973.

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There are sooooo many Oscar robberies, but I agree that Pacino in Godfather II is among the most heinous in the leading actor category. Also, Peter O'Toole in Lawrence of Arabia and Richard Burton in Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf. As for Dog Day Afternoon, if I were choosing I would have awarded it to Pacino that year, but at least Nicholson's performance was worthy competition, unlike some other winners.

Among actress nods, the most embarrasing I can recall is Annette Bening's beautiful performance in American Beauty being passed over in favor of Hilary Swank's confused work in Boys Don't Cry. But then, I also thought that an embarrasingly bad movie, and still don't know why anyone cared.

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Peter O'Toole owns this list. His performance as T.E. Lawrence has been hailed as the single best performance on film ever, but he lost to Gregory Peck who also gave an indelible performance as Atticus Finch in To Kill A Mockingbird (and who had been around much longer -- LoA was O'Toole's first substantive movie role).

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IMO easily Robert De Niro as Travis Bickle in Taxi Driver

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IMO, De Niro in The Deer Hunter. That was a clinic in acting, and the performance to end all performances. And Serpico is my favorite Pacino performance, but I loved Dog Day too.

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Ill list the top ten in no particular order except for #1

10) Dustin Hoffman in Midnight Cowboy

9) Gene Hackman in The Conversation

8) Robert De Niro in Taxi Driver

7) Al Pacino in the Godfather Part 2

6) Jack Nicholson in Five Easy Pieces, althought George C Scott won that year for Patton, so maybe its too close to call

5) Marlon Brando in A Streetcar Named Desire

4) Al Pacino in Dog Day Afternoon, although once again with Nicholson and his performance in One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest, its too close to call

3) Woody Allen in Annie Hall

2) Denzel Washington in Malcolm X

1) AL PACINO IN SERPICO! This is the greatest blunder of all other blunders that the academy has made. How could you not give it to Pacino for Serpico. I rank this as the number 2 performance of all time behind De Niro in Raging Bull

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Let me let you guys in on a little secret, oscars don't matter. They DO, but they don't. They can lift an actor straight onto the A-list if they're just starting out, or it can even kill a promising career (i.e. Anna Paquin, or however you spell it, and even the great Orson Welles, who won screenplay for "Kane", and never acheived the heights the film promised of the young director/actor/writer.) Awards for acting are all self worshiping BS. Not that I'd ever turn down an Oscar mind you. But just look at the great filmakers who never won an oscar. Peter O'Toole, Stanly Kubrick, Alfred Hitchcock, Cary Grant, Harrison Ford, Martin Scorsese(until last year), Paul Newman didn't win an Oscar until 1986, well after his prime. Did Al Pacino deserve to win an Oscar for Dog Day Afternoon? I think so. As good as Jack was in "One Flew" he couldn't quite match the raw, for lack of a better word, "truthfullness" of Pacino's Sonny. This is a performance built around Pacino's personality, so when you see Pacino furiously ripping into his wife on the phone, and then quietly breaking down into a hole of self pity and regret, you are watching Pacino break down. Not a character, not a performance, but you are watching Pacino, not as an actor, but as a human being, live through that moment by himself. I've never seen a more honest or heartbreaking portrayal of a man who know's he made the wrong choices, and now finds out, he's paying for them. Forget the oscar, Pacino gets respect.

Sometimes...there's a man.

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when i saw this movie i and heard that he was nominated and didnt win i screamed he was robbed than i realized that he lost to jack for cuckoo's nest. that is a tough call b/c he as well was excellent. there should have been a tie

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naomi watts lost her oscar to nicole kidman.. you guys should consider that as well. namoi watts is the best actress in the world

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Hey! You've also read 1001 films...

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tdavis-16 I know she should have won an academy award after all she loved that red dress

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Pacino in this, and Sean Astin in The Lord Of The Rings: The Return Of The King are probably my two top picks, although I'm probably forgetting somebody.

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how about John Casalle? he should have won an oscar for every movie he was in...

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also edward norton in primal fear who lost to cuba gooding jr in jerry maguire who was good but man edward norton in his first film role delivered a truly great performance

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best performance by an actor not to win an oscar: Tor Johnson in Plan Nine from Outer Space,
Enzo the Baker in The Godfather the runner-up.
honorable mention to Toto in The Wizard of Oz(she developed a character with a very shaky script)>

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I'd say most of Pacino's roles deserved an oscar but especially this one. However, some of the biggest oscar travesties to ever happen would be to Martin Scorsese and Quentin Tarantino if you ask me. And of course Stanley Kubrick and Alfred Hitchcock.

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Here's some I would list.

1-Paul Newman - The Hustler.

2-Samuel L. Jackson - Jackie Brown or Robert Duvall - The Apostle (same year).

3-Liam Neeson - Schindler's List.

4-Marlon Brando - Streetcar Named Desire

5-Humphrey Bogart - Treasure of Sierra Madre & Maltese Falcon

6-Robert DeNiro - Taxi Driver

7-Martin Landau - Tucker (Supporting Actor)


As for Jack Nicholson (Cuckoo's Nest) vs. Al Pacino (Dog Day Afternoon) it's a tough choice. Nicholson could have won for Chinatown the year before, but I also enjoyed Art Carney's performance (Harry & Tonto).

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Newman shoulda won for Verdict.

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The funny thing is that Pacino won for Scent of a Woman which was such an overacted and hammy performance.

But he was blind in the movie, and the academy loves when you get fat, get skinny, have a handicap, or a mental disease.

Hoo-Ha

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I agree about Scent of a Woman. I think it was a "sorry we screwed you so much" Oscar. Don't shoot me but I think Downey should have won that year for Chaplin. And I can't believe Ray Liotta was overlooked for Goodfellas! But then I love that movie.

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Pacino in Godfather Part II and Daniel Day-Lewis in Gangs of New York losing to Adrien Brody in the Pianist. What the *beep* was that about.

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pacino in the following:

-the godfather part II

-scarface

-dog day afterenoon

-serpico (golden globe though)

de niro in the following:

-taxi dreiver (seriously what the hell)

-cape fear

-the deer hunter

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and while we are on the topic might as well talk about scorsese who has endured more robberies than almost anyone:

-taxi driver (not even nominated what the ****!)

-raging bull

-goodfellas

amon many others

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Al Pacino > Godfather II
Martin Scorsese > Too many to list, I hope to God Scorsese's first Oscar isn't a lifetime achievement award, he's gotta make one more classic movie, and finally get the recognition from the Academy that he deserves.

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Dustin Hoffman for Midnight Cowboy
Marlon Brando for A Streetcar Named Desire
Val Kilmer for Tombstone
Al Pacino for The Godfather Part II
Humphrey Bogart for The Treasure of Sierra Madre
James Cagney for White Heat
Clark Gable for Gone With The Wind
Johnny Depp for Pirates Of The Carribean:The Curse of The Black Pearl

ALL DESERVED OSCARS

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Al Pacino : The Godfather Part 2 / Dog Day Afternoon
Robert De Niro : Taxi Driver
Johnny Depp : Pirates Of The Carribean: The Curse of The Black Pearl
Martin Scorsese : Raging Bull

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"Johnny Depp : Pirates Of The Carribean: The Curse of The Black Pearl "

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I totally believe Johnny Depp deserved that Oscar for "Pirates." From his first line of dialogue on, I forgot he was Johnny Depp and believed he was Captain Jack Sparrow.

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Dustin Hoffman for Midnight Cowboy
Marlon Brando for A Streetcar Named Desire
Val Kilmer for Tombstone
Al Pacino for The Godfather Part II
Humphrey Bogart for The Treasure of Sierra Madre
James Cagney for White Heat
Clark Gable for Gone With The Wind
Johnny Depp for Pirates Of The Carribean:The Curse of The Black Pearl

ALL DESERVED OSCARS

For once, I actually agree with another poster. Well, besides Val Kilmer for Tombstone, but other than that, definitely.

Among the most heinous, I'd put Pacino's as well as Depp's. I'm not Depp fanatic, but when you make a comedy role that memorable and convincing, as well as hilarious, you deserve an Oscar. The Academy simply doesn't realize that comedy ain't easy.

To tell the truth, when it comes to Dog Day Afternoon vs. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, I'd hand it to Pacino, but I can see where there would be debate, so Nicholson's (sp?) win is legit.

In terms of this year, although it may be a false hope, I'm hoping the Hugo Weaving gets nominated for V in "V for Vendetta". You may laugh, but I argue that if you can play a character so convincingly you can see emotions behind a mask, you're a good actor. But the Academy doesn't recognize innovative acting, hence Depp's loss...

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The Treasure of Sierra Madre in my opinion was a terrible movie. And I don't think Bogart was at his best in that one.
Johnny Depp? OMG...he used to be a good actor!

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Thats what all Oscars wins are now. You win on body of work rather than performance sadly.

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Taxi Driver was directed very well at all. Some scenes could have been filmed alot better, for example the scene in the end with the reading of Iris's parent's letter, the whole begining intro of the film, etc. The lighting and music in the film wasnt anything to be proud about either. In my opion Rocky deserved all the oscars it took home that year.

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He did not deserve to win, Finch did.

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Adrien Brody's performance in The Pianist blew everybody away (me included), and he had the protagonist role (Daniel Day-Lewis didn't). I don't care if you just can't stand Adrien Brody, he did an awesome job in The Pianist (the best movie about the Holocaust I've seen by the way)

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Daniel Day Lewis not winning for gangs was one of the biggest snow jobs ever

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Even though he wasn't nominated for an Oscar, Malcolm McDowell should have won for Clockwork Orange. Even though "Popeye" Doyle(Gene Hackman)was a good, tough guy, Alex DeLarge was a more complex character, making it the better performance.

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Sean Penn in everything he *beep* does, if he takes a *beep* its oscar-worthy...but what really pisses me off is Paul Giamatti no being nominated for Sideways...WTF! in my opinion, the best film of that year.

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Pacino really should've got one for this movie,his performance was 100% convincing.I also think Johnny Depp should've won for Pirates of the Caribbean..that performance was entertaining,memorable and convincing!

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i disagree. Al Pacino is a far better actor than any other actor ever. One flew over a cuckoo's nest was a very good film. Only Dog Day Aternoon was better, with Pacino losing his oscar. I think the best performance ever was Pacino's in Serpico, and Godfather part 2 but, both times he lost his oscar to some other less able actor.

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I love Al Pacino and he is my favorite actor but I believe Denzel Washington has gotten screwed out of more awards than anyone else.....

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If it was up to me, Pacino would have Oscars for The Godfather I and II, Dog Day Afternoon, Serpico, Glengarry Glen Ross, Scarface, etc etc.... but maybe i'm a little bias :)

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Denzel? Denzel won that oscar for Training Day when Russel Crowe in a Beautiful Mind was clearly superior. That night was BS, it was like the academy giving back to black people or something. Sidney Portier Lifetime achievement, Halle Berry, and Denzel.

But the oscars and pretty much *beep* It seems like nowadays they are more impressed by someone putting on weight for a roll and *beep* like that than actual good performance.

Who beat Tom Cruise for Jerry Maguire in that Oscars, because that was a really good performance too.

Pulp Fiction should have won more awards than it did. Did it even win best screenplay? Cause if it didn't thats a travesty.

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Pulp Fiction did win best screenplay, but for a long time that's been the academy's consolation prize for the real best picture that doesn't win. Examples:

Citizen Kane in 1942

Dog Day Afternoon in 1975

The Usual Suspects in 1995

Pulp Fiction in 1994

Fargo in 1996

Eternal Sunshine in 2004

Traffic in 2000

LA Confidential in 1997

Dangerous Liaisons in 1988

The Lion in Winter/The Producers in 1968

Doctor Zhivago in 1965

There are probably others, but you get the idea. And they'll probably do the same with Crash this year.

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shaq in kazaam deserved an oscar. brilliant performance.

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I agree. Al Pacino has to be one of the best actors, and he only has an Oscar to show for it. The Academy is just screwed up. He deserved so many Oscars, I can't believe he didn't get one for Dog Day Afternoon, the Godfather I and II, Scarface and so many more... There are too many actors who have lost well deserved awards. Why is it so unfair?

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The biggest oscar robbery on a single person was on Stanley Kubrick for best Director on the following films:
1)2001:A Space Odessey
2)A Clockwork Orange
3)The Shining
4)Barry Lyndon
5)Dr.Strangelove

One of the most shocking screw up's in Oscar history (and also the most embarassing)would have to be in the year 1942 when a film by the name of Citizen Kane lost the best picture oscar to a film which i doubt anyone even knows about called How Green Is My Valley.

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We can all curse and be pissed about the academy, but let's not.

I don't know if any of you keep your vote history updated, but the movies that i rated with a 10 sure aren't all oscarwinners. MulHolland Dr, Garden State, Full Metal Jacket, Eternal Sunshine, Requiem for a Dream, Brazil, Blade Runner, Snatch, Fight Club, Pulp Fiction, et cetera.

So the bastards don´t know a thing about movies. Accept it.

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James Stewart in It's A Wonderful Life.

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The academy started F#ckin up in 1976 when Rocky (a fun film) beat Taxi Driver and Network for the best picture, after that the academy lost credibility and rarely has chosen the correct film for best picture since then. They also screw up best actor, actress and supporting on a regular basis. They nominate some of the best and always seem to pick the third or forth best one too win it all out of the group. Exceptions: 2001-A Beautiful Mind (definitly best picture of the year) 2003- Return of the King (no strong movies, good time to honor the one of the greatest series of all time, 1990- Silence of the Lambs, 1991-Unforgiven 1993-Schindlers List 1994- Forest Gump and maybe 1995- Braveheart, all the other picks were very questionable to me.

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i screwed up two of the years, silence was '91 and unforgiven was '92

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Kubrick should have won for everything he was nominated for. But yet, they give him an oscar for visual effects instead...it's no where near as good as all the best directors, picturs, and screenplay nominations he recieved.

The biggest year of screw up in oscars would be 1994. Forrest Gump?! Why? Pulp Fiction all the way. Quentin should have also won for directed for PF. Lawrence Bender is a genius for producing Pulp Fiction. John Travolta, Uma, and Sam Jackson were amazing in it- but Samuel L. Jackson should have won, not Martin Landau. Hear him read Ezekiel 25: 17 and you get this vibe going through you.

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Julia Roberts over Ellen Burstyn in Requiem For a Dream.

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Deservered Oscars:

Al Pacino in The Godfather, The Godfather II, Serpico, Dog Day Afernoon and Donnie Brasco

Robert De Niro in Mean Streets, Taxi Driver and The Deer Hunter

Dustin Hoffman in Midnight Cowboy

Marlon Brando in A Streetcar Named Desire

Jack Lemmon in Glengarry Glen Ross

Russell Crowe in A Beautiful Mind

Denzel Washington in Philadelphia

Laurence Olivier in Marathon Man

Edward Norton in American History X



(Well those are the performances that sring to mind)

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In what way is "Oliver" a better directed film than "2001: A Space Odyssey"?

In no way. No way at all.

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I agree with some of your picks but A Beautiful Mind did not deserve to win because of the screenplay and the way it said "up yours" to the audience with all imaginary characters. It wasn't a beautiful mind, it was a horrible mess. Memento and Mulholland Drive were far more deserving. And in 2003 Return of the King deserved it because of no strong movies? Mystic River was a vastly better movie and far and away the best picture of the year. Return of the King winning Best Picture is one of the great embarassments in Oscar history (like Sideways winning Best Screenplay last year) and ranks right up there with perhaps the biggest mistake ever: Titanic winning over LA Confidential.

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