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Stupidest use of explicits sex


Seriously, i enjoyed the Film for what it is, but those "Porn" scenes just ruined the experience for me. I watched it because Quentin Tarantino said it influenced him for Kill Bill so i did not realy know what to expect, but those scenes just lowerd the Film for me, why put them in there afterwards anyway?

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I've read somewhere that Tarantino actually preferred the American version ('They Call Her One Eye') which doesn't have any porn scenes.

I completely agree that they cheapen the film very much. Just ugly.

"Stupid f...ing white man!"

Dead Man (1995)

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Firstly, I don’t think that the hardcore sex scenes have any real modern value to the viewer, and comes off cheap and lurid. And while I’m not arguing that the directors was an artistic genius, the film’s original effect must have been.

Like all transgressive and exploitation cinema, the real value of the film lies how it challenges your values and preconceptions about narratives and art, within that time. But that the problem, after a few years the mode has changed and ideas have evolved, making the original works that brought about these kind of leaps forward in cynicism seem sort of pointless and desperate.

Anyway getting to my point: in 1973, unsimulated sex, as an actual thing in mainstream movies, was only a couple of years old and had only really been used for erotic effect. Here we see a girl kidnapped from her home, drugged, brutalised, disfigured and, finally, fully penetrated in front of our very eyes by some brutish oaf.
Even a 2013 misanthrope such as myself felt a real sense of outrage at this slew of indignities she forced to silently suffer. But at the same you do feel a sense of sense arousal, as it’s a beautiful girl, so you as a man also feel a sense of shame and anger for your own engagement with it, feeding into the strongly anti-masculine themes of the film.

It’s this outrage that makes the involved and tedious 2nd half bearable, with the extensive training scenes and actually having to watch her load her guns with individual bullets. I also felt nothing for her unsympathetic actions, such as murdering motorists, because I had aligned myself with her unyielding, uncontrollable, vengeful rage.

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I thought they were awesome and was happy to get to see it! Wish more mainstream movies would take it that far

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^^This!

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I wish ^^This! would die.

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I’ve seen both versions and the one with the hardcore scenes definitely builds more anger against the perpetrators abusing Frigga. You want each one of them to get what they deserve.

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There's a new blu-ray release of this coming from Vinegar Syndrome. Are the hardcore scenes with the actual lead Christina Lindberg, or are they inserts of someone else? If they're the actual lead actress, I'm all in favor of them being included.

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It's not Christina Lindberg in those scenes.

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They used a local couple who did live sex acts on stage to perform for the added scenes.

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Yes, I think they were from Poland or an Eastern European country.

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