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It' Alive! fans - general discussion


Hi there!

Since nobody has started any threads here, I thought I would post the first "general discussion" subject...

I assume anyone here would see the absolute greatness in this film, regardless of the semi-pro production values and other oddities. It's Alive! (IA) is Cohen's greatest film, and perhaps his most creative writing (Best Seller would be a very close second)...

To get things rolling, how about some general discussion points:

(1) How old were you when you first saw IA? Any recollections of the viewing? Did it affect your life after that?
I was 6 or 7 when I saw the film, at a twin theatre :) BAD MISTAKE!
According to my parents, I practically demanded to be taken to the film!!! All I remember is being extremely scared and refusing to turn around to the screen (see #2 below). And, of course, being a great sibling, my sister insisted we stay for a second showing (yep, let's just pile on the trauma!). The movie affected me quite a bit. Like another viewer's comments stated, I was also certain the "baby" was hiding under the table at the head of my bed - those odd sounds in the middle of the night also made me worried! It took me a while before I could squarely look at the "baby" and not be frightened out of my wits. I know, extreme...but IA is definitely not a children's film.

(2) What do you believe are the most effective things in the film?
First and foremost, the music, the music, the music!!! Second, the absolutely blood-curdling, sickening scared/attacking baby sounds. Referring to the first question, I believe the music is what made me so very frightened to start out with, and is what has stayed with me through this very day. I think all of Bernard Herrmann's music is brilliant, and is one reason I became a musician. If the IA score does not have an effect on you, then you have no idea of what effective music is in the first place, IMO.
The "baby sounds" are incredible. Want to scare away a burglar, just use one of those attack sounds when the alarm is tripped! I recall reading that Rick Baker (and his wife) did the sounds...I would love to know more details if anyone has any!

(3) How about the acting?
It's truly a shame that a brilliant actor like John P. Ryan didn't become a huge star - he is truly one of the most, if not the most underrated American actor of the past 30 years. I cannot imagine one of the current big-time actors taking this role and making it so believable, and so passionate. I'll discuss the rest in the next post.

Hopefully, someone will follow up here and share their thoughts!

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I posted above about running into a wall decoration when I was seven. Flashing forward to now, I am a night shift police officer in a suburb of Columbus, OH. I respond to about three or four burglary in progress alarms at night(99% false). Something still is a little creepy about finding an open door at an elementary school at about 2:00 AM. So far, no Letter People.

Just picked up the DVD. Besides being a little disapointed in the trailer (it wasn't the TV spot that almost cracked my skull) I loved it. Cohen's commentary was well worth it.

waiting on a re-imagined remake.

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Like most posters here, I saw It's Alive as a child in the theater and was severely traumatized. It terrified me. I had nightmares and wouldn't sit on the floor near the dining table because I was sure that The Baby was under there and coming for me! It really scared me for years and years.

Now, as an adult, I saw it again and can appreciate the fine acting of the man who played the father (John Ryan?). He did a really nice job with the character. Even though I classify the movie as grade-B, the movie has some depth and quality along with it's low budget and horror storyline.



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hi.
does anybody know ( or know how to find ) the original theatrical release date for this movie?

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I was 6 years old when I first saw the It's Alive movie trailer on TV, to say that I was petrified with fear is truly an understatement. I was so scared of that movie and anything associated with it that I would keep my eyes closed when I turned on the TV for fear of seeing that bassenette, I couldn't even look at the movie listings in the newspaper or the movie poster at the theater. Naturally my parents thought I was overreacting. I was so traumatized by just the commercial that I couldn't bring myself to watch this movie until I was a grown woman. When I finally sat through it I was shocked that the movie wasn't as scary as the trailer, it was an interesting movie but it didn't scare me. The Exorcist on the other hand still creeps me out till this very day, the minute I hear Tubular Bells I get goose bumps. And who here remembers that movie Magic and it's terrifying trailer?

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Great post, rdj3! You said " I would keep my eyes closed when I turned on the TV for fear of seeing that bassenette, " - me too! I only recall seeing this in '76. not '74, but I was about 8 or 9 and that commercial had me hiding my eyes too - I'm not sure if the baby screams in the tv ad after showing that damn bassonette, but just the claw sticking out stuck with me for years! But, I sucked up my guts and went with my best friend...we knew it was far-fetched and an unlikely premise, but still, the delivery room scene got to me the most, the bloody carnage, the slashed throats & faces...all cos of those evil 2-fingered claws!!! ;^) (What kind of freak has only 2 fingers? Oh yea, the Davis baby!)
I was too afraid to keep my eyes on the milk man scene, because I KNEW the damn thing was gonna pop out & get him! I may have seen it, but do remember the milk/blood streaming down the street. No doubt, a similarity to the blood going down the drain in 'Psycho'.
Speaking of that, remember how many women said they were too afraid to shower after seeing that scene in Psycho?
Just look at all the people on here that were deeply affected in bad ways, thanks to this Larry Cohen conceiving this idea for a movie! But we don't hold it against him, do we?
"I was so traumatized by just the commercial that I couldn't bring myself to watch this movie until I was a grown woman" - This cracks me up! You poor baby! I am just laughing at all the 'traumatized' people on this thread; at least we know we aren't alone! "Damn you, Cohen! Damn you!!"
As for other traumatic films, you mention the Exorcist. I saw this on HBO I guess in the late 70's and that was everything I imagined it would be - and more! But the Directors cut that came out a few years ago has the scene cut from the original, where Regan glides down the stairs UPSIDE DOWN LIKE A SPIDER and goes :UUuuggghh!: and this blood comes out of her mouth! That gave ME the chills/creeps and I'm a grown adult male too! Films really do affect us, don't they!
Cheers to Horror movies!




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Believe it or not, I have never seen this film all the way through, though I have read a lot about it in both print and the Net and have read most of the novelisation (tattered copy in a used bookstore).

I've read a lot of interviews with Larry Cohen and he's definitely an intelligent man.

I've seen countless photos of the "babies" and they look very hokey; even moreso than the shark in "Jaws". The "grown-ups" in the third installment look bloody hilarious.

Now why haven't I seen any of the movies? You'll laugh yourselves silly.

The TV TRAILER. That changed my entire perspective on going to the cinema!

The movie may have originally been released in 1974, but I wasn't aware of it at the time.

The first time I saw it was in May, 1977, in the afternoon after I'd got home from school. I was in the fifth grade, 11 years old. My mother and I were watching TV and the trailer came on. Laugh if you will, but at first I thought it was an advert for the March of Dimes, soliciting funds on helping deformed infants!

Adding to that, a bad wave of severe thunderstorms and tornadoes came through that same afternoon. So all that afternoon and night were tornado warnings and the "IA" trailer! My mom had to give me a dose of NyQuil just to get me to sleep!

After that, it seemed like that trailer was EVERYWHERE - local channels, basic cable (primitive in 1977), you name it. About the only "refuge" from it was PBS. My school attendance improved markedly, so that I wouldn't be at home where the TV was on! I also spent more time at my grandmother's - she lived out in the country and didn't have TV.

Many of my school friends were like, "oh, wow, gotta see this movie!" Most of them were pretty disappointed afterward. I'm still surprised it got a PG (then again, "The Battle Of Britain" inexplicably got a "G").

We had always been a big drive-in moviegoing family (my late father loved drive-ins and my mother refused to go to a walk-in cinema) but after that I did NOT want to go to ANY kind of movie, for fear of seeing the "IA" trailer. Incidentally, "IA" never did come to our local drive-in (which no longer exists)! However, it did come to our former downtown cinema and the line stretched around the block.

This was around the same time "Star Wars" came out and of course I wanted to see that...but when my sister finally took me in December '77 I was STILL afraid of seeing the "IA" trailer!

When we got HBO in '79 and got one of the monthly guides I found about the existence of "It Lives Again". Oh, crap. Not another one! The only time it was on was one night in late '79 when I was alone in the living room getting ready to watch "The China Syndrome" and the "ILA" trailer came on...I turned my face away.

I later came to be a HUGE fan of the "Alien" films...but I still couldn't watch the "IA" trailer! Even now, almost 30 years later, as I approach 40, it still makes an appearance in my nightmares.

I remember when "IA" and "ILA" were shown on the CBS Late Movie in 1986 and USA Network in the '90s. What I did watch was pretty goofy. I've seen the VHS (later DVD) box for "IA3" but it looked even goofier.

I really couldn't tell you a lot about the movies themselves, because I haven't seen them...however, I think anyone going for a career in advertising should study the 1977 saturation marketing that Cohen and Warners did for "IA"!

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I agree totally about the effectiveness of the trailer, I saw the thing at my grandparents house in the country when I eight years old, the revolving bassinette scared the hell out of me, and it seems to me there was smoke comming out of the front of the bassinette as it slowly turned but my memory is a little foggy about this...I can't belive so many remembr this trailer for such acrappy movie.

They sure dont make cool movie ads like this anymore.....
Another one that scared me a few years later was the one for The Prophesy by Frankenhiemer......







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I don't remember the smoke coming out of the bassinette - I think that may have been "It Lives Again"...however, I've tried to forget it for almost 30 years so my memory may be foggy (to no avail; I even had nightmares about it when I was in basic training).

The main things I remember besides those damn CLAWS was the "lullaby" music, the heartbeat, the very calm "the Davises are having a baby"...and the scream at the end.

The ironic thing is that my maternal grandmother's last name was DAVIS. We also had a guy in my Boy Scout troop with the last name Davis at that time and he got ribbed mercilessly about being "there's only one thing wrong with the Davis baby...It's Alive!" to the point where I think he actually punched someone.

I think the very last time I saw it was in about early June '77 and it had added some reviewers' comments..."the most terrifying film since 'Black Sunday'" was one I remember.

I think the added effect on me was right after the movie came out (and it was EVERYWHERE) was the night of severe storms I mentioned...severe storm warnings mixed with the "IA" trailer.

I've never actually seen the movie all the way through despite the fact that Michael Ansara is in it and he was a Klingon in the original "Star Trek"...he was also married to Barbara Eden.

If Larry Cohen does remake the film and saturate the airwaves with a new trailer they'll probably have to lock me up in the psych ward of the local veterans' hospital...

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Wow , it really shows how an effctive trailer can leave a lasting impression, I am not a fan of ITS ALIVE, but I will never forget the creepiness of that trailer... cool.

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see how a trailer can scare kids worldwide?
If you like comedy, check out 'Night Shift' and the funny quotes here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084412/board/nest/37546101?d=37547202#37547202

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I have never seen this movie.

I saw the trailer in '77, and it freaked the sh!t out of me every time. Whenever it came on, I would either run out of the room or hide my eyes and plug my ears.

I saw "The Unborn 2" on Sci-Fi today, and it totally reminded me of this trauma from nearly 30 years ago.

"It's Alive" was the scariest commercial ever created.

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Yeah!!!! Another anti-circ at imdb. Saw an anti-circ bib lately that said "cirucumcision is baby rape". I wholeheartedly agree. Ok, now back to searching through these message boards looking for the link to that elusive trailer.

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LOL! "Laugh if you will, but at first I thought it was an advert for the March of Dimes, soliciting funds on helping deformed infants!" - man, that's funny, but I always knew, by the tone of the narrator, that it wasn't gonna be good!
I can see how you'd think it was a March of Dimes ad, cuz they can be melodramatic to raise funds, but just that bassonette alone looked evil to me as a kid! Keep in mind that I had seen 'Jaws' and 'Grizzly' and survived those just fine! But that preposterous "killer baby'" schtick scared me more than the idea of being eaten alive my a monster shark or grizzly bear. Why? Because it was so small? A grown adult would have just drop- kicked the Davis baby, end of problem! But not the Davis baby. The eyes glowing in the dark, the rustling in the bushes, and that hideously obnoxious scream just gave us all nightmares, and I just can't explain it. Is there a deep psychological reason why this happened to our subconcious? Did Larry Cohen know this? Does any other film compare?



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Funny story, Thunder...look how many kids' lives Larry Cohen ruined! LOL~ I'd love to have an It's Alive t-shirt and that little baby doll! That should be a better seller than the Chucky dolls were!




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I thought there was an Its Alive baby for sale on some of the film replica websites, havent seen them in awhile though..
Anyone know where the Original trailer may be found?

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I sure don't but if its not in the DVD release, that is criminal negligance!
A total gyp!

"It Lives Again!"



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Here it is! And they say the remake will be out soon!

http://www.bumpinthenightproductions.com/itsalive.html

The doll is $60.00, but looks just like the ugly-ass Davis baby!




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Yes, I thought it was an advert for the March of Dimes! After the trailer was over, my mom and I looked at each other and simultaneously said "What was THAT?"

You can find IA "baby puppets" and tee shirts on EBAY quite easily. Probably for cheaper than $60.

Like I said earlier, when I was in (U.S. Air Force) basic training, many years after 1977, I still had nightmares about that trailer...that got to me worse than my Military Training Instructor (drill sergeant) ever did!

O-bloody-ell, the remake is happening?...I'd better get my doctor to increase my dosage of Klonopin and Prozac...maybe the reasons I'm on those are partially traceable to that movie trailer all those years ago? ;)

Does anyone remember the original 1974 release? Was it as much a media-saturation as the May 1977 re-release? I don't remember anything about it at all...of course, in 1974 I was only eight years old. I just remember that for about a month or so in 1977 that damn basinette and claws seemed to be EVERYWHERE.

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Man, isn't that sad that Larry Cohen could put a scare into you worse than the US military!?? Somethings not right about that! ;-)
Its funny how many people here have kept this nightmare - and others mentioned MAGIC too, the talking doll! I wonder if they were afraid of Chucky too? I never was. By then, I was over it!
March of Dimes...perfect! As if those claws were a real defect!!
Like you, I do NOT recall it in '74, just when I was at a funeral in 1977, that's how I remember it so well - was not '74...if it was, it must have been under the radar, no $ for tv commercials and only shown in NYC and LA, perhaps...limited city release...

Re: more Prozac: Don't let it get to ya! It's just a movie!
But a remake? Well, they are remaking Black Christmas, Children SHouldn't Play w/ Dead Things and just remade The Hills Have Eyes, which looks pretty good.
I just ordered the original It's Alive on video and It Lives Again! (1978), look forward to seeing them again! ;-)



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Well, the thing to remember about basic training for me is that my instructor looked like a bulked-up Howdy Doody with freckles and a red high-and-tight haircut and called everyone "f---king ding-dongs" all through basic and he had bad breath from too many cigarettes...Larry Cohen's imagination was much scarier than that.

I remember "Magic" too, the marionette (called "Fats", for you trivia fans) with the big bulging eyes saying something like "Magic is fun...when you're dead." I was in the seventh grade when that came out but it seemed to come and go quickly, unlike "IA", which was EVERYWHERE.

Yes, I know it's just a movie...my comment about more medication was somewhat tongue-in-cheek.

But I still won't be seeing it, though no doubt many older people will remember the original and make Cohen much richer.

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Well ok, I guess I knew you were joking about the meds, but I just didn't know how it could have stayed with you through boot camp!
The red-headed DI sounded funny (do they call 'em DI's in the Air Force too?), and hell yes, directors CAN mold thoughts more efficiently than those in our work/gov't! Isn't that scary enough?
True, Magic probably had a short theater life, like 2 weeks....It's Alive had double exposure! Those commercials were all over the place!
Cheers!



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No, in the Air Force they're called MTI's (Military Training Instructors). And some of them swear a lot more than Marine DI's are allowed to do, believe it or not.

Yes, "IA" did stay with me throughout Basic Military Training (probably because under such stress your mind does funny things)...and there was nobody in my flight named Davis that I remember...actually, it's stayed with me ever since I first saw that trailer in May, 1977. The "The Davises are having a baby...etc" scared me far worse than my MTI screaming in my face (spit, bad tobacco breath and all) at what a pathetic excuse for an airman I was and that's why I ended up in his flight.

It's actually somewhat of a testament to how smart Larry Cohen is both as a director and as a marketer that "IA", which is actually pretty mediocre considered as a film, has stayed in the minds of so many people now entering middle age (I'm 40).

Yes, that bassinette and claws were EVERYWHERE in the late spring of '77. So much so that I didn't even notice the emergence of "Star Wars" until long after my peers did because I wanted nothing to do with movies in general because of "IA"! Remember, though, that I was 11 years old.

Interestingly, I heard an interview with Cohen on NPR right after 9/11 where he was asked if he would do a movie about 9/11 and he said "First of all, I'm a New Yorker, and second of all, I'm not THAT sick!" I think the implication was that, to Cohen, nothing is sacred.

He's got to be getting fairly old, though...I wonder if he'd still have it in him to deliver something with the impact that "IA" had 30-odd years ago. Rarely does lightning strike twice.

Actually, I do take Prozac, but I've never discussed the "IA" trailer with my doctor...he's from India and has probably never heard of it...and he'd probably look at me and say "You get this distress from a bloody movie advert? I didn't learn that in medical school!"

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hi darklighter,
Its hard to imagine an AirForce bootcamp rougher than Marine bootcamp!
But it seems to have built you up, regardless. I cant imagine cohen being on NPR 30 years afterwards, what was his reason for being on there, a new film 0r to discuss Its Alive's affect on Gen X'ers? LOL!

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Well, I wouldn't say that AF BMT is "rougher" than Marine boot...it's probably more mental stress while Marine boot is definitely more physical. In the Air Force, though, it all depends on your TI. They can get by with pretty much whatever they want, as long as they don't get caught. Mine threw a clipboard at me and nearly hit me in the kidneys had I not stepped out of the way...then he chewed me for breaking military bearing...couldn't win either way...but it still wasn't as frightening as the "IA" trailer!

To tell you the truth, I honestly don't remember why Cohen was on NPR. I found it while I was scanning across the radio channels in my car. They didn't talk about "IA" at all, except to mention that it was one of the movies he'd directed. Maybe it was because he's a New Yorker with a reputation for making bizarre movies that had socio-political overtones, and it was right after 9/11...I only heard part of the interview. He did seem to be insulted at the suggestion that he would make a movie exploiting 9/11. I suppose everyone has their limits.

Right now I'm studying for what will eventually be a doctorate in psychology (some years down the road)...maybe I'll do my doctoral thesis on the "IA" trailer's psychological impact on so many people...!

You know, Michael Ansara was in "IA" and he was the Klingon Commander Kang on both an episode of the original "Star Trek" series and "Deep Space 9". Whenever I see that episode I wonder what motivated him to take the role in "IA"...except that maybe it was a dry time in his career and he would take anything to put food on the table.

He was also married to Barbara Eden for some time and a few years ago their son committed suicide in his pickup truck. Tragic.

The late MacDonald Carey was in "IA3" and for many years he was the lead actor on the soap opera "Days Of Our Lives"...my mother was a close follower of "DOOL" and sometimes I wonder what she would have thought of this soap actor she liked so much playing in a goofy straight-to-video horror flick.

It's interesting that you mentioned "Gen X'ers" (I'm just barely one since I was born in '66) because a few years ago I read a book by some sociologist about Generation X (it wasn't Douglas Coupland's book that coined the term), both the author and book title escape me, but the book actually mentioned "IA" as one of the movies that defined "Gen X'ers"...no kidding!

In retrospect, I think a big reason why the "IA" trailer had so much impact on me is either the day I first saw it (or within a day or two of first seeing it) there were a bunch of tornados coming through the area where I lived at that time and it was like sensory overload with tornado warnings cutting to the "IA" trailer and back again almost constantly, with tornado sirens going off and police cars going down the street with their lights and sirens on.

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Man, you had a hard life, it sounds like, in the A F !
So, have you ever seen a real tornado from afar or close up?
I'd love to see one but from 2 miles away!



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It wasn't that hard once I got out of basic. I was Air National Guard and back then it was peacetime so I really was a "weekend warrior" as it used to be defined; now being in the Guard or Reserve is almost like being active because they're getting deployed so much. My old unit just got sent to Iraq for 180 days. However, I did have a TI who shouldn't have been in the job. He was more like a playground bully. He was not an instructor in any sense of the word. He liked to see what he could get by with when there weren't any officers around.

I come from northern Indiana originally and that's where I lived when "IA" came out (think Notre Dame). I've never actually seen a tornado; plenty go through Indiana but for some reason I've never actually seen one. The night I'm talking about, though, with all the tornado warnings and "IA" trailers is something that will stay with me always. I remember all the Emergency Broadcast System signals mixing in with the music and screams from the "IA" trailer, not to mention all the thunder and vivid purple-blue forked lightning. Never to be forgotten.

If Larry Cohen wanted to scare the hell out of an 11-year-old kid that night he certainly succeeded.

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Darklighter-4 Bahahahaha!!! The March of Dimes!!!



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Wow. It's interesting to find out that this film affected others besides myself!
For the life of me, I still can't listen to that horrible baby scream without getting the willie's. And forget about actually looking at those creepy things. One time, I accidentally clicked on a page with shots of the babies and quickly clicked it off. Even after 20 years I can't look at those things!

I bought the DVD but haven't had the courage to watch it yet. Too bad the original trailer isn't on there though. It was a stroke of creative horror genius. :P

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Sometimes I'll accidentally click on one of those pages too...and do the same thing that you do. I can watch the Alien burst out of John Hurt's chest infinitely more than I can look at the "IA" babies.

One I saw was a pretty goofy pic of Larry Cohen with a roomful of models of the creature and what were probably suits that the actors portraying the "grown-up" creatures in the third movie wore...and he was grinning and making "bunny-ears" with his fingers behind its head.

Putting on my future Psy.D. hat for a minute, I think a big reason why the trailer was so effective was that it was so minimalist. Dark set, soft lighting on the rotating bassinette model (I wonder how big it actually was), the soft voice, the lullaby music and then the scream...no blood, no gore and nothing really showing but still scaring the hell out of you and intriguing you at the same time. More Hitchcock than Tobe Hooper.

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I was 14 years old when I saw this film on TV. And believe me, it scared the *beep* out of me.

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My name is Michalina and I saw it in 1974 when I was 13 and I am still traumatized to this day. I find myself urinating on myself at random times when I think of it.

Anyone else have this probleM?

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I just had to add my 2 cents here I saw this movie when I was 6 at a drive in theater in Jersey.......scared the hell outta me and actually made me afraid of infants!!!

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I first saw "It's Alive" in the late '70s at a drive-in in North Dakota when I was in my teens. I watched it again today, and I have to say it holds up very well for a low-budget film -- thanks mainly to the excellent performance of John P. Ryan.

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Talk about a trip down memory lane, the original post sounds just like my own experience as well! It's a good thread & hilarious to then read how many others were affected by that demented film. As someone else mentioned I too wonder if Cohen knows & appreciates how many kids he scared the crap out of! I was 9 & it was my older sister who took me to see it---& what I didn't See, I most definitely Heard! Didn't Want to! Shortly after "seeing" "It", there happened to be a cats-of-the-neighbourhood get together underneath my window one night(late, of course)---have you ever heard a bunch of cats fighting? Or howling? And snarling? They scared the Crap outta me, I was frozen in my bed petrified not realizing it was only some damn cats because it sounded a whole lot like the stuff I didn't want to hear in the theatre from that creepy little baby. Ugh!







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Oh, I don't think putting your feet up on the desk would stop them! In fact it might make it easier for them to get to your troat! ;-)

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