In the opening shots of this movie there's a gruesome sequence that spoiled the whole story for me. It's the one where the cowboys at a ranch are shooting at chickens digged into ground. There are even close up shots of chicken heads exploding when hit by a bullit.
Animal cruelty for pure entertainment sake was never my cup of tea. Were those real, living chickens, or just puppets? If it wasn't a special effect or even if was, that sequence is still totally pointless, except for Peckinpah's perverted view of violence. Don't do to others what you wouldn't want others do to you, I always say.
I don't think Sam Peckinpah cared much about animals and as people have said it was shot in Mexico and given Peckinpah's track record real animals were almost certainly killed. Personally I eat meat and I consider the making of masterpiece more important than the lives of animals.
Chickens eat their own excrement and their own babies. Anyone who wants to kill people for inhumane treatment of animals does not qualify as a "hippie." Peckinpah was a visionary artist who followed his muse into dark and unsettling places. Bob Dylan is a wuss.
Who the hell cares about f.ckin chickens? We are humans, homo sapiens sapiens. A chicken is just a stupid chicken with no brains, used as food by us. Not even some more evolved type of animals, just stupid chicken. Two or three chickens killed by a film crew. Who the hell cares? There are billions of chickens in the world, millions of them eaten every day. These animal right idiots can be really annoying sometimes.
"A voice from behind me reminds me. Spread out your wings you are an angel."
Yes, Peckinpah could be cruel. "The Ballad of Cable Hogue" starts out with a lizard being shot, and it ruined the movie for me. Bloody Sam had a childish, bloodlust streak. In many ways, he was America's best director, but he should've left animals alone.
For all the people saying chickens don't have brains or the ability to perceive or feel things...
From an Interview with Dr. Ian Duncan, Professor of Poultry Ethology University of Guelph Ontario, Canada
Q: Can chickens and turkeys feel pain?
A: Absolutely. It is indisputable that poultry are capable of feeling pain. All poultry species are sentient vertebrates and all the available evidence shows that they have a very similar range of feelings as mammalian species. Poultry can suffer by feeling pain, fear and stress.
Q: Chickens and turkeys are widely regarded to be of inferior intelligence, so-called "dumb animals." Is this an accurate assessment of their intelligence?
A: Not at all. These animals are poorly understood. Turkeys, for example, do not always do what a turkey grower wants them to, and therefore they're classified as dumb animals, whereas in fact turkeys possess marked intelligence. This is revealed by such behavioral indices as their complex social relationships, and their many different methods of communicating with each other, both visual and vocal. Chickens, as well, are far more intelligent than generally regarded, and possess underestimated cognitive complexity.
Q: Do chickens and turkeys possess distinct personalities?
A: Yes. For example, hens of a modern laying-strain are very similar genetically, and lay a similar number of eggs. When one looks at their behavior, however, it is obvious that they do have very distinct personalities.
Eat meat or don't eat meat, but don't deny animals their status as living, breathing, feeling, thinking creatures. It just makes humans look stupid and cruel to reduce sentient creatures to nothing more than plants.
Animals act out of instinct. Humans are capable of enormous cruelty and brutality toward each other and "lesser" beings.
And, no, I'm not a PETA member and yes, I eat meat. I don't derive pleasure out of torturing and killing animals for sport or art and I don't have the attitude of "it's just a chicken" therefore, anything goes and it doesn't matter how you treat it. Before it's food it's a living thing. No creature deserves to be tortured and suffer and factory farming is extremely cruel. Anyway, that's my two cents. I'm just a kind person who cares about sentient creatures not suffering in misery.
I have to ask, who exactly is looking down at humans as stupid and cruel besides other humans? You realize there are literally hundreds of thousands of species out there just as cruel as us right? You do realize there are animal species out there who eat their prey while it's still alive, right? You do realize their are plenty of mammals beyond humans who kill other animals just because they can, right?
I'm just saying of all the major problems ailing society, inhumanely killings of chickens should not be on your top priorities. There are things like genocide going on right now that should be a bigger concern. Protect your own before you go out and help other species. I never understood the concept of "that's what makes humans 'better' than other animals."
How exactly is helping other animal species die more humanely making us "better"? They are still dying, you think that little ounce of humanity is going to effect your Karma in any way? Hell, humanely is a smug and self-righteous word in it's own right. The belief that you know of a better way to kill something is just utterly ridiculous. The only gray areas in killing something are the ones you create for yourself to help justify the means.
Personally, I don't care if you're against animal slaughtering or for it. But don't try to make it sound like you're better of a person for knowing the animal you're slaughtering is sentient, cause that's just pathetic.
It might be helpful to always look for Sam Peckinpah as director and if he's listed, skip the movie.
Peckinpah's trademark is violence of any kind. I've read somewhere that his movies were the inspiration for the spaghetti westerns - and you can find all kinds of gratuitous violence in them.