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Why aren't you allowed to dislike 'outside the mainstream' films?


I watched this film and found it boring, I came on here and surprise surprise there are imperious reviews about people finding it boring just "not getting it". Or- perhaps they just found it boring and even if they did understand the plot would still find it boring?

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I'm in love with this thread. I enjoyed Solaris, but the OP and some of the other thread contributors are spot on.

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perhaps they just found it boring and even if they did understand the plot would still find it boring?

Here's an idea. If you say enough about the film to prove that you've understood it, or at least tried to engage with it, people are a lot more likely to take what you say seriously even if they don't agree with it. Solaris is actually the film I love the most, but I can appreciate why other people may not like it - hell, even Stanislav Lem who wrote the book didn't like it. What's annoying though is when people insist that a film like this is wilfully obscure or has no point, which is clearly not the case and says more about them than about the film. Flaming richly deserved in those cases.

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We can't all be all things. Doesn't make you a bad person.

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Well, if people attack you for thinking a movie is boring (and you didn't say anything about disliking the movie or not and even then, that would be a stupid reason to attack someone) and say your attention span was trained by Hollywood movies (which is simply ridiculous) then ask yourself: Is it even worth it to have a discussion with that person? They act like some brat or a snob, clearly they're not on the same intellectual level of the movie they praise for being so intellectual.

There's nothing wrong with saying a movie is boring, I'm pretty sure the director also found certain movies boring, is he an idiot for thinking like that then?

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"I'm pretty sure the director also found certain movies boring".

I'm pretty sure "the director" would have been able to come up with a few more insightful criticisms besides flatly declaring his boredom and leaving it at that. You know - some points we could actually talk about.



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He thought 2001 was souless etc. now, would you agree and say that's a bad thing or what?

And I'm sure yes, he'd give more points...and still say it's boring. I'm pretty sure you found certain movies boring as well.

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Over the decades I've found that some things that are generally regarded as erudite, top quality, must sees or what have you, really click with me. And others just don't.

It so happens that I utterly love Tarkovsky's Solaris. (I also love the BBC audio adaptation, but only quite like the novel (which I've read in two translations so far), as I consider it a bit long-winded and unfocused. I don't like the Soderbergh film, and I haven't seen the first Solaris film (the 1968 TV movie).)

But for those of you who don't - hey, nothing works for everyone. Not liking it doesn't make you an idiot. Telling people they are pretentious pseuds for liking it does make you an idiot, but if you're not doing that, no problem!

That's the clock done, now for the chairs.

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