OK, I'll reply to this post as my last comment as it's clear it won't go anywhere.
When Hawkeye performed unnecessary surgery on the colonel how did you view that.
Which one? Hawkeye did this *twice*. The first was Col Flagg the penicillin thief and the second was Col Lacy who was reckless with his troops and had a high casualty rating.
The second Hawkeye unnecessary surgery incident with Col Lacy was the writers way of "cleaning up" the exact same story line when Trapper and Hawkeye performed an appendectomy on Col. Flagg. I guess the producrs felt they needed to revisit the earlier story line and have B.J. deliver the moral sermon about the Hippocratic Oath that they left out in the earlier version.
Maybe they were getting tired of getting letters from real doctors watching the re-runs.
Forgetting that the earlier episode was the reason for the second, Hawkeye's reason for the two unnecessary surgeries was to prevent a reckless colonel from sidestepping orders and taking his troops into a reckless battle over a "hill" that would cost many soldier's lives (Col Lacy) and prevent the theft of penicillin from the camp (Col Flagg).
Regarding the surgery itself, I have no opinion either way because I'm not a surgeon and I wasn't a doctor in a war where the surgeons operated on dozens of kids every week. Walk a mile in their shoes if you will. In any case, Hawkeye's motives, right or wrong, were to *prevent* more disease and death of people he didn't even know well. Sounds like compassion to me and definitely points away from a sociopath.
If you want to call everyone a sociopath, that's fine. Just don't expect to convince the rest of us.
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Owlwise (1535)
3 years ago
For some reason, he does seem to want to call everyone a sociopath. More to be pitied, I think.
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strntz (12658)
3 years ago
Strange. I've been trying to figure out his fascination with the word but I'm coming up blank.
I've also noticed in my time on MC that a lot of people ask "questions" to solicit opinions and when they get them, totally dismiss them. I wish they'd just make an outright statement of their opinion so I won't waste my time.
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JosephQCat (706)
3 years ago
You have a serious problem in regards to identifying equivalents. I not once said that everyone is a sociopath. Now if you feel that way then please come forward with the basis for that.
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JosephQCat (706)
3 years ago
You are speaking for everybody else when you refer to "us?" Saying that sociopaths are wide spread is the same as calling everybody a sociopath? Really? You do not understand that it is wrong for individuals to run their own wars in spite of a command structure? What gives Hawkeye the right to decide if a war is moral or not?
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strntz (12658)
3 years ago
You are speaking for everybody else when you refer to "us?"
Yes. We had a meeting and I was elected to speak for the group.
Saying that sociopaths are wide spread is the same as calling everybody a sociopath? Really?
I have no problem with the distinction, you do. The example you're using as a sociopath isn't one by any stretch of the definition. Hawkeye cared more about the wounded than any surgeon in the entire run, with perhaps the exception of B.J. He cared about his friends, he worried about Radar, B.J., Potter, Henry, and even Margaret. He turned down a gorgeous and talented young entertainer because he considered himself to damaged by the war to be a good enough husband for her. He was outgoing and a mostly happy person. He had tons of friends both in and out of the camp. It was only Frank Burns that he wasn't all that friendly with. He even became friends with his biggest rival: Charles.
A sociopath?
REALLY??
So by arguing that one of the most anti-sociopath TV characters is a sociopath, it's YOU who are calling virtually everyone a sociopath.
You asked for opinions, but you had no interest in hearing them. What you should have done is simply posted that in your opinion, Hawkeye was a narcissist and let it go at that. This way, you wouldn't have had anyone show you just how wrong you are. You don't see it, the rest of US do however.
EDIT: Hawkeye's naive view of why wars are fought doesn't make him a sociopath. He has an opinion that is different than yours (apparently). A strongly opinionated person isn't sociopath either.
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JosephQCat (706)
3 years ago
Your response sure was a hoot when I read it. Almost like you expected me to swallow it hook, line, and sinker.
You obviously have trouble differentiating between a narcissist and a sociopath. Would a narcissist readily disobey orders? Hawkeye routinely disobeyed orders even on a daily basis when it came to exercise or getting along with Frank Burns. It does not matter how many lives you save but you still have to play by the rules like the rest of us. Unless you are a sociopath. You really believe that it is an all or nothing proposition in regards to goodness and being a sociopath. I lived in a student residence while at college and one of the co-habitants was the son of a doctor. The father was extremely rotten to the family including killing a family pet in a rage. At the same time he was well regarded by his patients. So in your opinion because a person is proficient professionally he is incapable of being a sociopath in general? It'd almost like you have a child like understanding as to how the human mind can work. That and you will buy a bill of goods off of the television set without question.
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strntz (12658)
3 years ago
Dude, you have a whole bag of issues, none of which can be fixed here.
Get help. Soon.
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JosephQCat (706)
3 years ago
I have no issues. You need to take a long hard look in the mirror. Denial is a heck of a way to go through life. Care to address what I previously posted versus making a thinly disguised effort as to an exit from the conversation?
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strntz (12658)
3 years ago
Care to address what I previously posted..
No.
You don't have the necessities to understand simple logic, you have no interest whatsoever in the opinions you solicited, and if you're not trolling, you need real help. I'm not qualified to help you.
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JosephQCat (706)
3 years ago
Normally, I would dismiss your lack of addressing the subject as an attempt to be a wise guy. Sadly, your deflection hints at a lack of depth to address the subject of being a sociopath. Also, being heavily invested in a fictional television character to the point of being in denial of base behavior tendencies says you lack the most basic reasoning abilities. Why even engage me when you will not discuss the topic? You obviously have the time as you are closing in on 5400 posts over the span of around 3 years.
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