Harry only fired 5 shots during the bank robbery scene. after the shotgun there were 6 shots but the 5th came from the last guy Harry shot. So when Harry delivers his famous line, the gun shouldn't have been empty.. unless he didn't fully load it prior to the scene
"Victims... aren't we all!"
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Hmmm... weird. But why didn't he fully load it? Maybe there was a shot they didn't show. When they are in the car you can hear a weak sound... could have been the directors idea of a shot going of.
shareBecause with a revolver if you have a round chambered under the hammer it could accidentally be discharged if the hammer got bumped or hit.
shareI just watched and rewatched that scene and he only fired 4 shots.
Not only that, but the "punk" just lies there with his gun inches from his fingers and waits for Harry to walk up to him. Why didn't he make a grab for it earlier?
I used to think this was the coolest scene in the world. But I was just 13 then and now I think it's pretty cheesy.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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You guys must be watching it on AMC like I am. And yes, he only fired four shots.
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agree with magerk4. how many times do you think he's said it before the bank robbery?
just a badass movie. whether im 10 or 27, it still rocks. dont make em like this anymore...
I just checked the DVD and he fired 6 shoots ...
... number one, at the first robber (with the shotgun) coming out of the bank.
... number two, at the second robber coming out of the bank, the one who dives into the car.
... number three is off camera, it is heard but not seen.
... numbers four and five are fired at the car and hit the windshield.
... number six is fired at the robber who climbs out of the wrecked car, sending him thru the plate glass window.
... AMC may have edited their showing for Time/TV.
ETA: Count for yourself ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2Cv_8bhwQU
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@magerk4 it's not the fact that he said it, it's the fact that he pulled the trigger after saying it and the gun clicked empty. but he didn't fire 6 shots
"Victims... aren't we all!"
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I just watched it for the first time on AMC, and it was only four shots. It's a stupid edit.
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If you watch the dvd he fired six shots, if you listen for it you can clearly hear all six shots. AMC probably edited it or some bs like that.
shareBetter recount. It's easily and obviously counted as six shots.
sharemaybe he did the old 5 Beans In The Wheel safety move...leave only 5 bullets so the hammer rests on an empty chamber.
shareGood idea. But that practice is unnecessary in the case of a modern double-action revolver, such as Harry's Smith & Wesson. The firing pin does not rest on the cartridge, and there is practically no chance of an accidental discharge if the weapon is dropped.
Move along. Nothing to see here.share
AMC definitely edited out the scenes where he fires the 3rd and 4th shots.
shareActually, doesn't the guy ask Harry and says he has to know?
Then Harry pulls the trigger and there is no bullet. This after Harry takes the shotgun away from the bank robber. and the bank robber is mad at himself for not having enough guts to go for the shotgun.
This is mirrored when at the end, we think Harry is out of bullets and he is not.
Actually, Efs, this Model 29 is not a "modern" double action. In at least one scene you can see the hammer-mounted firing pin. The transfer bar mechanism allowing safe carry with all 6 chambers wouldn't have come in until the 1980s at least. So, he would normally carry with only 5 chambers loaded. That is, if he were even remotely smart.
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There has already been discussion regarding the safety practice of loading only five rounds with the hammer/firing pin resting on an empty chamber (which seems an unlikely practice for a S&W Mod. 29 as far as I know), but this is on the trivia page:
"According to the original script, the phrase that Dirty Harry quotes during both the bank robbery and his final confrontation with Scorpio was not the actual quote for the movie, the actual quote in the script was, "Well? Was it five or was it six? Regulations say five...hammer down on an empty...only not all of us go by the book. What you have to do is think about it. I mean, this is a .44 Magnum and it'll turn your head into hash. Now, do you think I fired five or six? And if five, do I keep a live one under the hammer? It's all up to you. Are you feeling lucky, punk?""
Perhaps the line was 86'd when somebody figured it might not make much sense unless you were in Tombstone some years back. Or I wonder if that was really the policy back then.
Who knows... Some guys might have still carried Colt SAA's ala Tom Threepersons.
"According to the original script, the phrase that Dirty Harry quotes during both the bank robbery and his final confrontation with Scorpio was not the actual quote for the movie, the actual quote in the script was, "Well? Was it five or was it six? Regulations say five...hammer down on an empty...only not all of us go by the book. What you have to do is think about it. I mean, this is a .44 Magnum and it'll turn your head into hash. Now, do you think I fired five or six? And if five, do I keep a live one under the hammer? It's all up to you. Are you feeling lucky, punk?""Great backstory on that, but I think whoever cut it down to what we see on screen did a great job. The shorter version has much more umph and Harry is not one to sit around and chat about police protocols. share
I counted a few times, and I could've sworn he fired six times.
1. At the robber in the striped shirt with the shotgun. (The "Punk" in question.)
2. At the robber in the leather jacket.
3. While the robber in the car is spinning the wheel.
4. Through the windshield.
5. Through the windshield again.
6. At the leather-jacketed robber again after he jumps out of the car and fires at Harry.
Edit: Didn't realize Red Rocker had said the same thing. Oh well, point still stands.
Anyway, if you really want a mistake, there's the fact that he cocks the hammer when he points it at Powell's head, yet he still pulls the trigger double-action when it cuts back to Harry.
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I think the bigger mistake is the "WORLDS MOST CHEWY HOTDOG"
sharechewy lunch or dinner hotdogs (not much difference...)just gives Harry something to do while he fires off his full load of six shots. You guys are watching an edited version that removes two shot. I have been watching this film regularly since it was in the theater and I (being 8 years old) snuck into to see it in 1972. So many old films have that happen and it ruins the scene.
shareYou hear 5 shots but see only four according to Trivia.
Anyway who cares!
Watching it now, 100% six shots.
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Same here, watching the scene as I'm typing this, he 110% fired six shots, not four or five.
One at the first guy, hit.
One at the second guy who dives into the car and misses.
Three at the car, one misses, one hits the windshield, one goes through and kills the driver.
And finally, one at the guy who crawls out of the car and gets sent through a glass window.
I'm no expert in math but I'm pretty confident that one plus one plus three plus one equals six.
Plus there this if we are going on the five shots fired theory.
Harry had his gun cocked (single action) on the bad guy- now if he fired five rounds previously he is pointed a live round at the bank robber. When it was over and Harry picks up the shotgun, he uncocks the gun, and lowers the hammer down on a live round. When the robber ask for an answer to the question of rounds fired, Harry pulls the trigger (double action mode this time) the weapon's cylinder spins and the hammer falls on a empty, an already fired, round.
Also the S&W of that era could be carried safely fully loaded. In the old west the Colt revolver's firing pin literally rested on the sixth rounds primer and dropping the gun could cause a discharge, hence the habit of carrying only five rounds in the weapon. The S&W M29's firing pin only strikes the primer if the trigger is pulled, it does not rest on a live round.
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That's plausible, but it's more likely that it's a continuity error than anything, since the sight and sound of someone cocking a revolver or shotgun, when in reality, it would always be ready to fire, is done more for the viewer because it looks and sounds cool.
Double action revolvers are made so that you don't have to cock the hammer to fire it, but when you do, the hammer goes back down and when you pull the trigger again, the hammer cocks itself as you're squeezing it.
Not to mention how in one shot he's shown cocking the hammer and in the next shot he's shown pulling the trigger in double action mode (after he's done with his "Six shots or only five." speech)
But yeah, he definitely fires six shots during that sequence, just listen here, not hard to tell since the sound of Harry's gun is so distinctive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxjstLJkedc
So yes, as I said before, Harry fired six shots, one at the robber who gets reincarnated as several different characters, one at the second guy coming out of the bank, three at the car, and the final sixth shot at the guy who gets out of the car and blasted through a window.
I think one of the gunshots was supposed to have been somewhat subtle to confuse viewers into thinking he did only fire five shots and create a bit of tension.
However, the real error in that scene is how Harry is clearly shown to have been hit in the leg, but doesn't have a limp and his pants don't have any holes in them. And how Harry wasn't allowed to finish his hotdog before things went south.
first: "Halt" Shoots the guy in the purple
second: shoots at the guy diving into the car
third:shoots again at the car (we hear it as the driver is spinning the wheel)
fourth: Shoots the windshield (so we know he shoots the car twice. We even see two bullet holes in the windshield)
fifth: Sends the car into the flower stand.
sixth: Sends the guy through the window
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