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Imagine if the internet existed in the 1970s when this movie was made.


And also, when it would be used in the actual movie, would Alex survive, knowing that people will know about his evil deeds and would harshly condemn him etc.

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I have no idea what you're trying to convey with this post.

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Well, how would internet affect someone like Alex from this movie were it to exist in the 1970s the way it does today. And whether or not he will be highly bothered by the hateful and negative comments users will post of him etc.

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And do I really have to try and "convey" anything, really?

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He didn't seem to be bothered by what anyone thought of him by any means absent the internet. Why would he care about random internet people?

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And also, when it would be used in the actual movie, would Alex survive, knowing that people will know about his evil deeds and would harshly condemn him etc.

It's difficult to decipher exactly the point you're making or the question you're asking.

Would Alex survive
Knowing that people will know about his evil deeds
and would harshly condemn him

Would he survive? As in, continue to live? Why would people knowing about it have anything to do with his survival? He wouldn't just suddenly drop dead because more people knew about it than those that read it in the papers.

How would any of this be any different than when people do evil things today? Aren't people now "harshly condemned" on the internet? And yet, we read about evil deeds all the time. I'm not sure what you're getting at here.

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Well, maybe in the 1970s people reacted to it differently?

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By the way, fair enough, the internet may not have affected too much those other people who committed terrible crimes and whatnot.

But to some degree, no, not to rightly think its wrong, nor to discourage me from doing anything bad myself (I've always been a nice guy and a normal law-abiding citizen), a lot of those angry comments, however right they are, have slightly gotten under my skin and into my mind and conscience and I wondered sometimes - hey, why aren't future criminals as such deterred and affected, even if unfortunately, answers to that are often rather obvious, and of course I know the basic rules and facts of life etc. But it did create certain feelings in me like that of the existence of tangents and tendencies of justice.

And I kinda had to wonder, if internet started to exist in the 70s, would that have an effect on would be and existing criminals like Alex?

Remember how in this film he jumped out of the window when hearing that Beethoven sympathy? If he read about how much people hate him and think he deserves to suffer and die, would that create a similar effect?

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If he read about how much people hate him and think he deserves to suffer and die, would that create a similar effect?

No. The reaction to Beethoven was because of the mental conditioning he was forced to endure.

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So then why does someone like ME, who has NOT been conditioned to any Ludovico treatment and de-facto drugs in real life as such, often tends to react and take close to heart and at times for granted the stuff that people say on the internet, especially about guilty evil people, is it just my mental state etc?

And with regards to mental conditioning, do we all experience it and does it work well even when no drugs etc are used, like in this movie?

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So then why does someone like ME, who has NOT been conditioned to any Ludovico treatment and de-facto drugs in real life as such, often tends to react and take close to heart and at times for granted the stuff that people say on the internet, especially about guilty evil people, is it just my mental state etc?

Because there is something wrong with YOU.

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Really? There was something wrong with Alex in this movie too.

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Maybe I am just a little too impressionable and have spent WAY too much time at home and online rather than living life to the full and some of that stuff just got to me etc.

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Maybe

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Plus, its a well known fact that sadly not only are psychopaths often incapable of empathy but they also rarely worry about the consequences of their own actions and even LESS so what others say or think about them. So I am guessing if internet existed around that time, it wouldn't change much.

P.S. I heard that to some extent, albeit different to how it is today, internet actually WAS around in the 70s as were computers. Just not up to our standards.

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Remember how in this film he jumped out of the window when hearing that Beethoven sympathy? If he read about how much people hate him and think he deserves to suffer and die, would that create a similar effect?

Can you explain to me how you equate the two? He couldn't stand to hear the symphony because that's what they played during his conditioning with the drug that made him sick. The drug was intended to make him direly averse to the violence they forced him to watch, but in the process made him direly averse to the music as well. No such correlation would have existed with the opinion of anonymous random people on the internet.

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Alex would've been caught by surveillance cameras thrashing the homeless, slashing his droogies, and his voiceprint probably would've been identified in home security footage of his rapes, etc. Exposure on the Internet would've paled in significance.

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