The Age Differences


Just watched “Angels in the Snow” again and Rhoda weighs in on Mary’s new guy. So he was about seven years younger than Mary. So what? He wasn’t in junior high. Mary’s co-workers were uneasy about it too.

Society really made a big deal out of a woman being older than the man.

It wouldn’t have been so bothersome on MTM if Ted and Georgette were not so far apart in age. For heaven’s sake, Ted was old enough to be her FATHER, yet no one ever remarked on that age gap!

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I assume that's simply a lingering trace of the days when a man was expected to work long enough to earn enough money to "establish" himself before marrying -- at which point he would look for a wife young enough to bear him a substantial family while she was still fertile. It gradually became more acceptable to marry for love instead of practicality, but it was still considered "normal" for the man to be at least as old as the woman (and I imagine that's still the case to a certain extent), but it's my impression that attitudes have continued to relax during the 50 years since "Angels in the Snow" aired.

Just taking Ms. Moore's life as an example of how the old stereotypes are relaxing, her first husband (Richard Meeker) was 8 years older than her and her second husband (Grant Tinker) was 11 years older than her -- then after their divorce she dated men a few years younger than herself -- and her third husband (Dr. Richard Levine, whom she married ten years after "Angels in the Snow" aired) was 18 years younger.

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Everything you wrote is true.But I suppose women still go for a man who is older and more established in his career. I was just talking about this to my sister the other day and she said, “ Young men are dumb!”

She meant that men usually mature later than women. Her husband is eight years older than she is.

But again, Hollywood has often paired up actors with younger women. Cary Grant’s leading ladies stayed in their twenties as he got older. That is just one example. When Bogie met Bacall on their first film, she was just out of her teens and Bogart was in his forties. Of course, they got married for real, so the age difference did not matter to them.

I guess I was just never interested in dating a father figure. I had a dad and that was enough of a father for me.😊

It just bugs me on the MTM show. No one ever said to Ted that Georgette was young enough to be his daughter.

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I suppose women still go for a man who is older and more established in his career. I was just talking about this to my sister the other day and she said, “ Young men are dumb!” She meant that men usually mature later than women.

Quite true. Of course that difference tends to diminish with age, which may explain why (for about 25 years, from college till I got married) I nearly always dated men who were about 30 -- old enough to relate to, but still physically young.

Hollywood has often paired up actors with younger women.

I think the main reason is that the men are seen as the actual "stars," whereas the women, even the big-name ones, are often seen as mostly decorative. Mercifully, I think that's starting to change (though, as with a lot of other things, I'd rather see the change being made because the respective stars work well together, rather than merely because "it's the right thing to do").

No one ever said to Ted that Georgette was young enough to be his daughter.

That was certainly true of the actors (with a nearly 25-year age difference). But of course most of the people we saw having personal conversations with Ted were men -- who were presumably thinking "Way to go!!!!"

Back some decades ago, a (female) friend of mine was acquainted with a well-known celebrity, who commented that his then-girlfriend probably had "a few good years left in her." My friend, shocked, pointed out that he was no spring chicken himself, to which he replied that with men, age doesn't matter. That actually does (still) seem to be true in some cases, at least when (as in that case) the man has status and/or money.

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It seems like men have different standards for women. Remember after Lou’s divorce when he dated the lounge singer Charlene Maguire?

The woman had a very colorful past including several marriages and a lot of boyfriends. Lou did not want to see her anymore since she was so “experienced”. Maybe he felt insecure? Mary scolded him for his attitude.

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It seems like men have different standards for women.

That's OK -- I'm sure most men would say that women have different standards for men!

Just off the top of my head, women seem to value a man who is responsible, takes good care of himself, and is a good listener. Whereas (though I may be totally misjudging) men seem to value a woman who is "hot."

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Lauren Bacall might have been technically a teenager but she carried herself with the sophistication of an older woman.

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