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Racial slur from Grandpa!


In the episode where Herman took a course to be a private eye, there was a line that shocked the Hell out of me when I heard it recently: Grandpa is reading the address of the "school" and learns that it's in Mexico. Grandpa then looks at Herman and says "My son-in-law, the wetback detective." No way would that get on the air today!


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It's the PC world gone mad. They used to have a show here in Spain in the 80's, the english in spain are called English SheepShaggers from London and limeys, on reruns, thankful they have left it in, and people still shout those nicknames for the english when Spain plays them in football.

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I was working as a Janitor in a large factory a few years back. The was a water leak outside on one of the bathrooms, and my boss told a co-worker (who happened to be a legal Mexican Immigrant!) to "Go get a wet-Vac and clean up that mess up." Five minutes later, the came came back with another Mexican and they started to clean up the mess! My boss saw that, and just rolled his eyes and walked away!

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I'm an american of mexican descent and i think its funny it was the mid 60's it was my man grandpa ! also thought about the show today because i looked in a shop window to see if it was open , the they drew the shade in my face .

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It is a racial slur today, but back then it probably had a different meaning, especially since Herman Munster isn't Hispanic....I think

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I don't believe it was considered offensive back then. As somebody else pointed out, the Eisenhower administration launched an anti-illegal immigrant program called "Operation Wetback" only ten years prior to the airing of The Munsters. During the same time period, you can find examples of the media freely making use of the term "wetback" to describe illegals from Mexico. As with many words, the connotations changed with time.

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To FacebookIsSpyware, I've heard more Southern guys refer to themselves as "redneck" than anyone else using the term. As to the use of the "w" word, I was just more surprised at them using it back then than if I had heard it used today with more liberal broadcast standards.



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whosit- "Offend-o-Meter" That's a good one! One of the funniest Sanford and Son episodes was the time Lamont got a speeding ticket and Fred went to court to defend him. Fred asked the white cop why he didn't go out and "arrest some white people". The courtroom was filled with black people who had traffic offenses like Lamont.

I saw the episode recently and I was so disappointed when they cut Fred's funniest line. He said that all the people arrested were black. "You've got enough "blanks" in here to make a Tarzan movie!"

The first time I heard that I laughed til I cried. I don't think it was offensive for Fred to say it. He was very blunt. But lines like that don't make it past the PC police today

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I remember that too! That was the first time I ever heard the "n" word in prime time and was quite shocked when my 12-year-old ears heard it.



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Sanford & Son aired in reruns here in Canada very recently (I can't remember the channel but I think it was TVTropolis) and that line wasn't cut out. I was shocked it wasn't. Same with all the insults on AITF. They didn't cut anything out.

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Some time in th early 1990's (IIRC), KTLA out in Los Angelas started broadcasting the Dick Tracey cartoons from the early 1960's, probably 5:00 or 6:00. That started a firestorm of offended minority idignation, as they had short cartoons on the show featuring a Mexican detective (who akways stopped for a siesta) and an "inscrutable" Japanese detective. They were upset that these characters would give the wrong impession of Hispanics and Asians. I was listening to a radio talk station on this matter, and a Mexican-American called in, saying how he always laughed at the sleeping Mexican, and it would be extremely unlikely that people in Los Angelas have not had sufficiant interaction with Hispanics and Asians to form an opinion.

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I remember one time in Steptoe & Son (a UK sitcom) there was an episode where the dad (Albert Steptoe) was putting his sons room up for rent as the son had left home (just for the episode). And in the notice he was jazzing the room up to be something it's not. And right at the end of the advertisement it stated "NO WOGS" and he even said it as well. Times have definitely changed since those days. Such things wouldn't get a chance to be said now.

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I'm guessing that "wog" is a British term for some minority. Do you know what it means?



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Back in the day in the UK especially during the era that Steptoe and Son was doing it's rounds on TV "Wog" was slang for a black person. Gollywog or Golliwog depending on how you would prefer to spell it. It just wouldn't happen these days on UK TV. Especially not on the BBC they produced Steptoe and Son back then. These days the BBC are so PC it is shocking.

I don't support racism but things are too PC for their own good these days. I don't hate any race or colour of skin. I never have and never will. But in saying all of that I find that politically correctness is a disease and should be treated like all other diseases and erradicated ASAP.

These sorts of comments should not be banned from being used in TV situations for entertainment purposes. They are showing how life on the street is for most people with such talk. Maybe that in it'sself is a scary thought and so they want it banned from our screens. And so the PC brigade wants us all to live in a bubble. In the show Only Fools and Horses the use of the word "Paki" is used a few times in the older episodes as well. Like in one scene Uncle Albert comes back from shopping and says to Rodney "The Paki shop wont let us have any credit" and in another scene in a different episode they were speaking about what would happen in the aftermath of a nuclear war. Grandad said there would be no way to grow food or anything. And Delboy said in response "There'd bound to be a Paki shop open somewhere".

If such comments be it against the lighter skin toned folks or darker skin toned folks is all in the name of entertainment then so be it. If it's for comedy and such like so be it. It's only entertainment. It is not however welcome if it's for hate reasons. Nothing I've ever seen has been done to promote racial hatred. It's all been for comedy or to show (like in street gang movies) how it can be in real life on the streets. Another case of these so-called racist remarks in entertainment is in the movie "East is East" it's about a Pakistani family with a white mother during the 70s era in the UK. And in it the dad being Pakistani tries to set his son up with another Pakistani families daughter. But the son doesn't want anything to do with it as he likes someone else. And the son (who is Pakistani) stands up and shouts "I'm not marrying a *beep* Paki!!!" and runs off out of the room. Nothing is said because it's a Pakistani man calling the other woman a Paki in an emotional situation. Double standards is that one. So we have Politically Correctness and Double Standards both of which should be erradicated. Rules against hate and racial hated should be kept most definitely. But only enforced when it's for a negative cause NOT when it's for entertainment purposes with no hate promotion in sight.

I am NOT trying to start any flame wars or anything with any of this. And a quick read at it all proves that. I am just voicing my views on the whole censorship era of politically correctness we're in just now is all I am doing. When shows of old are censored for their dialogue it's nothing more than some dick on an ego trip due to having the power to censor it. It's the case of do because they can, not because it's needs doing.



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Golliwogg was the name of a character originating in 1895.

Here's the full history of the Golliwog/Golliwogg.

http://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/golliwog/

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I remember seeing Golly on Benny Hill's and Dave Allen's shows. My friends and I are black, but we laughed up a storm when we saw him! I, too, am fed up with the PC police. Whenever I mention political correctness, my friend always says "Well, you wouldn't want to see a fat person called a 'pig', would you?" I replied "No. But the thing is now you can't even call a fat person 'fat'." Also, I can understand if the hero of the story has a prejudice (although it makes the character more three-dimensional), but when the villains can't even use slurs or insults, then things have gone WAY too far!

As to Grandpa's use of "wetback": it caught me off-guard because I wouldn't have expected that word to pop up in a show in the Sixties. I would have expected it more in the Seventies and Eighties. It probably wouldn't pop up now except on a cable show like "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" or something on HBO or Showtime.



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For what its worth, I have to give the producers of the DVDs credit for retaining the word in the DVD package. They could have easily dubbed in a less controversial word, but instead they chose to give us The Munsters as it originally aired. I'd rather have historically correct over politically correct.

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The term was used officially by the US government, including Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1954, with Operation Wetback, a project which was a mass deportation of undocumented Mexican immigrants.

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