This scene bothered me


I know that Joe was loyal, stood up to everyone, family, his superior at hospital. Went and found another position, and wanted Martha to come with them. Showed many fine qualities. But the scene near the beginning when he comes over after the party and roots through the refrigerator showed he had no consideration for their money problems. But, what bothered me the most was when he came to get Karen to go out. Karen told him she and Martha were leaving, and he said "I can't deal with two girls" and then when she said "Martha and I were going for a walk" he sat down and very smugly said "Fine, go!" Very dismissive of Martha's plans to go for a walk with Karen, telling her "I don't want you along." This made me never really like his character.

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mhearn, true! Especially, the specter of "male heterosexual entitlment." Hope your weekend going great!

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[quoe]the specter of "male heterosexual entitlment."[/quote]
Yes, because women of course never act like entitled princesses.

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Actually, I never cared much for Joe. Maybe that's why. :)






Get me a bromide! And put some gin in it!

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The scene with Joe that bothered me was when he and Karen were driving and she mentioned reading a book. Joe snarled an answer back to her. He was such a jerk there.

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People! Joe's an intern and has long hours. He's been waiting for almost two years for the two women to get the school working so that they can be married. His time with her is limited and it seems pretty normal that he would resent being short changed on his time with her just a little bit. His is a human reaction. His character comes across as someone who is "normal". The directing on this film is one its great strengths.

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The scene was just light-hearted fun between 3 friends. He wasn't dissing Martha. He wanted to walk with Karen alone because they were in a relationship, and he wanted to talk intimate. Martha knew it too.

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He was a cheeky chap early on but came through as a thoroughly decent individual in the latter proceedings.

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