MovieChat Forums > The Time Machine (1960) Discussion > What a waste of an opportunity was the r...

What a waste of an opportunity was the remake of this classic.


When I first saw this movie back in 1960, I was a schoolboy. After seeing the film I went to my local library and read the book in one day. The plot had gripped me that much and I had also fallen in love with the so vulnerable Weena, played by the beautiful actress Yvette Mimieux.

I have watched it on TV so many times since and looked forward to the remake, starring Guy Pearce, when it was first announced, but I was disappointed in the plot of the remake and the film in general.

My plot line for the remake would have consisted of Pearce's character, also a budding inventor, discovering his long lost uncle's time machine papers in the house that his uncle George (Rod Taylor) had lived in and which had fallen into ruin following his disappearance. Perhaps it could have been set in the post war years to start with. Some evidence would have emerged that showed that George had returned to his party of friends on New Year's eve in 1899 and had gone off again in his search for Weena. Thus George's nephew using the plans himself could have constructed another time machine - heading off into the unknown.

Now this is where I believe that the scriptwriters missed a great opportunity for the remake: surely it would have been so much more interesting if George's nephew had caught up with George and Weena in the future, clearly showing that George's efforts to educate the Eloi had been put to great use ? Both actors who appeared in the 1960 movie are still alive today and they could so easily have been discovered living together, as aged people obviously, and still actively engaged in a war with the dreaded Morlocks aided by their offspring and others. CGI could also have been used to show them as younger people when they were engaged in their first battles with their dreaded enemy, thus helping to fill the gaps. Those scenes could have been played out as flashbacks when George is explaining to his nephew what had taken place.

For my final scene I would have liked it to have ended just as Wells had written it, with George's nephew (in my plot) standing on a long sandy beach watching the sunset with large crablike creatures emerging from the sea. Mankind had gone... but there was still life forms roaming the earth.

Yep, in my humble opinion a great opportunity had been lost. Still love this old film though. It has everything and still stimulates my imagination...even though I am a codger these days.



reply

Anthony, although I really enjoyed reading your conception, what you have here seems to me more like a sequel than a remake.

Nonetheless, I find your ideas a lot more appealing than what I heard and saw of the trailer of the actual remake...which I have yet to see in full, btw. I just couldn't bear the thought.

I wish you could find a way to get a producer or somebody else with clout to look at your conception...it obviously springs from someone who truly loves the original source material.

BTW, I'm a codger too...well, a codgerette (codgeress?), anyway.




Couldn’t be a lily or a daffy-daffy-dilly, it’s gotta be a rose ’cause it rhymes with Mose!

reply

Thanks Tobian, glad you liked my version of what the follow-up should have been like, and full marks for recognizing that my version was a sequel and not a remake. I hadn't thought of it like that.

I do remember reading somewhere that there is some means of forwarding ideas to producers and they are happy to pay a little for good ideas, but I guess my version wouldn't be possible now that they have already spent money on the most recent version. Besides I think the two original stars, especially Rod Taylor are now past making movies. Maybe when they were ten or twenty years younger.

You should catch the remake...if only to see Alan Young in his brief cameo part.

Thanks again for commenting. It was much appreciated.

reply

I have a copy of this, which really has possibilities:
The Return of the Time Machine by Egon Friedell
From Amazon.com:
Sequel to HG Well's story about a man who travels over 800,000 years into the future, where he finds a utiopian society. This one tells of his return to the future along with 3 books. The story mostly focuses on his second trip and the interesting things he encounters. Like another time traveller. George gets thrown off his machine in this round and ends up 3 days ahead of it. While trying on what he thought was his machine, he discovers another non-human being also traveling through time. George's first trip causes paradoxes as he tries to get back to the moment before Weena's death: something he may have caused. George is in love with Weena and he goes back - to start a life with her in the far distant future.


*** The trouble with reality is there's no background music. ***

reply

there's also the "authorized sequel" titled "the time ships"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Time_Ships



I did not save the boy, God did. I only CARRIED him.

reply

I was excited when I heard about the remake since I knew Simon Wells was directing. Then I watched it and was underwhelmed to say the least. I think the 2002 Time Machine made the same mistake this year's John Carter of Mars did: It went so far into character exploration the universe of the story was not allowed to really gell with the main character's story and become a compelling, believable milieu. Don't get me wrong. I like character development, but when it's so haphazard and poorly done it serves as a drag on the movie rather than a benefit, it's probably better to let the main character be a tabula rasa.

Requiescat in pace, Krystle Papile. I'll always miss you.

reply

The '02 film was its own adaptation of the novel, not a remake of this film. Can't you people even bother to get the terminology right?

Standing there, on a road that leads to anywhere ...

reply

I never knew "adaptation" and "remake" were mutually exclusive terms.

Requiescat in pace, Krystle Papile. I'll always miss you.

reply

Well, no one calls Mary Shelly's Frankenstein a remake of the Karloff film, now, do they? Or, for that matter, the Karloff film a remake of the 1910 film with Charles Ogle.

Standing there, on a road that leads to anywhere ...

reply

For that matter hardly anyone makes the distinction, if it's been made before the new film is a 'remake'.

reply

I really liked the Looks of England and the people before the time trip. Didn't like what they did to the plot, though.

Speaking of the Looks of England, I'd really like to see a version of War of the Worlds that captured the spirit of the novel. The novel is almost an odyssey in the movement of masses of people through non-motorized roads and countryside.

... and the rocks it pummels.
- James Berardinelli

reply

only it ain't england. it's new york city, most of all identified by the library.


I did not save the boy, God did. I only CARRIED him.

reply

In a old "Starlog" from the 1980s George Pal was going to make a
sequel and make it adventures with George and Weena son .
Unfortnatly George Pal passed away before it could get started .


Fix the error reports on this site

reply

I enjoyed reading your idea for the film. The George Pal film is my favorite, something having to do with the mood the film evokes, I think that more than anything it captured a sadness and a melancholy for loosing things in time, and time changing things and having no control, which I would think would be part of a time traveler's experiences. That's what made it great, to me. That's what Pal emphasized in this film.

I liked many aspects of the new film too

In film, it always comes down to time.

A film is an experience in time. It has a limited time.

You only have 120 minutes or whatever the run time limit is to tell your story.
You have to make choices in what to emphasize. With sci fi, it's tricky. If you give too much time in character development-you don't have time to move the science fiction story forward, and develop the world that makes it science fiction. It's a delicate balance. Pal's version created that balance very well. Just enough of both drama and science fiction story action.

There's always room for fresh perspectives on the classics.
I have no doubt that The Time Machine will be brought to the screen again, or most likely, a tv mini series and hopefully a well done quality production, and good story writing.

A good sign is that now there are more and more quality productions being made for tv/cable/internet. So many cinema actors have made the move to "tv" productions and they don't want to be working on crappy material. This is a big improvement in getting quality television productions. When you think how much cable costs...and there is so much crap, and on top of that they are selling commericials to you...it's a very good thing. Yes, you still have to choose the good shows. Feature films have become too expensive to produce, and might become obsolete except as specialty art form, or just for the child/young adult audience. S.Speilberg announced that he will be doing more mini series television productions as well. So television producers are always looking for good original material for television production, if not adapting a classic too. Why not a mini series based on the Time Machine? His books must be in the public domain, like Jane Austen and Bronte and Dickens, etc...and they don't have to pay writer's royalties. Look how many films and mini series they continue to make of their work, and other classics (in the public domaine -copyright prior to 1923?)

Tobias, write your script and sell it to television producers!



reply



Richie PEARLS SERIES author

Most excellent sharing of the classic on how it should have been remade. You have a love for the concept which appears to be missing from the ones who actually did it. How sad that somehow, money, time and desire is misplaced and the true treasures of wonderment and worthy pondering go by the way side. The redemption is found in worthy posts like yours...Thank you for sharing

reply

[deleted]

I never understood why we have to re-make some films. The Time Machine could never be remade to the quality of the original. Its not the same thing. The remake was poor and nowhere near as good as the original.

reply

Agreed. There's no need to remake movie that was already great, the whole idea makes no sense.

reply