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FNB Promoted inequity, comformity, and a false sense of reality


Although I believe that the intentions were good by the actors and directors of this show, this show just promoted the idea that the man is the leader, children should shut up and obey and not think for themselves, and that a woman's role is to best support her husband. The show reflects this and it comes out of an era that certainly reflected this mentality.

I have several faults with this show, which are in general faults with that era. First, this show illustrated women as best suited in a home as the maternal figure that supports the decisions of the paternal figure. The sexism is pretty much outright and in the open. Statements like, "Women are never so obvious as when they are trying to hide something." Margaret Anderson, clearly very intelligent, very much lived this way. The devoted mother and wife who was more like a side kick to the father than a unique individual even though she went to college. Bringing him his evening drink, softening him up when she wants something in order to get permission instead of thinking she is entitled to it because she carries her own weight. One is left to wonder if she went to college just to meet a husband. You can even see how the female children are submissive to the son a lot or there are pre-conceived expectations that a boy likes this and a girl likes that. Even the neighbors had lives where the man worked, woman at home. The fault in this is less an attack on a woman wanting to be a mother and wife, which is fine if this is what you want, but more that the show says this is what you are supposed to be and if you aren't something is different. And different is wrong.

The inability to talk about politics, global affairs, etc. is constant. I believe this was done not because those issues were never discussed then, but because of an effort to promote this false sense of persistent harmony all the time. People got depressed back then, got angry and yelled, beat each other, got drunk, had affairs, said ignorant things, and often lived in a house that wasn't always all peachy. Peachy sometimes, bad others the way life is and has always been. This show makes you think it was always peachy back then and if your life wasn't like that something was wrong with you.


The show conforms to an ideal that was inequitable and falsely happy. Gender roles, sexism, and inequality blended together in a way where everyone should be happy with it imbues a false reality to that time period. Many women wanted out of the home and to have a career, sought equity with their partner in all affairs, wanted a voice in political affairs, were keen to wear jeans and not always dresses, and wanted to go beyond just being a housewife. Heated discussions about politics occurred, men beat their wives (and often vice versa), and people were people with all their faults, not these strange creatures out of the Stepford Wives.

People who really like this show are, in my opinion, nostalgic for another time where they enjoyed these gender roles. However, for those that wanted to move beyond the stiff conformity and inequity of that era, this show is nothing more than propaganda.

And the father always wore a suit, everywhere. At dinner, when he relaxed. Who wears a suit all the time? Did he sleep in one? That’s just weird.

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I see a lot of responders were irritated by your post, but you're not saying anything that Billy Gray (who played Bud) hasn't said himself about the program. Even cast & crew members thought the show was too conventional at times, I'm sure, but you have to remember, a censorship board reviewed everything that went on-air back then with an iron fist

Robert Young and Eugene Rodney were the producers of FKB and several of the cast members have stated in interviews that Mr. Rodney held tight reins on the show. Mr. Young wanted "Father" to be wiser on the TV show than he was on the radio show and was able to make that happen. He did not, however, make Father a tyrant (except in one special episode made for the government and not shown in syndication - it's in the season 1 DVD set). Father was wrong occasionally; he encouraged Margaret to be the landlord of property her parents gave her; encouraged her to go back to college; he helped out in the kitchen. Mr. Young, in a magazine article from the time, stated that the show received many complaining letters after Jim was shown wearing an apron and helping with the dishes but he wouldn't change it because he helped out at home, too.

I would like to challenge anyone who has not already seen them to watch episodes from season 5 to see how this show excelled. There is one episode in particular which deals with potential date rape. It is not a funny subject and is handled very seriously.

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The inertia of time has a way of making it difficult to look back on shows such as FKB without partiality. As with any facet from the past, it must be examined through the lens of historical context.

Once such aspect mentioned previously were the separate beds Mr. and Mrs. Anderson had in their bedroom. By today's standards it may seem silly, however, at the time this was fairly common for a middle class family since the largest size bed commonly made at the time was a "full" or "twin" sized mattress.

A twin sized bed was not nearly as large as a contemporary queen, or king sized bed and two adults sharing a twin bed would be quite cramped at best. What was usually done if people wanted (or needed) to sleep together was to move the two twin sized beds together. This made the sleeping arrangements around the same size as a modern queen bed. Moreover, at that time the marriage bed was considered special, intimate and private, and certainly not the business of the whole television audience.

From the previous posts it appears many have been judging FKB with historical fairness. Overall times where generally good and optimistic back in the 1950's and early 60's and FKB is fairly representative of the era in which it was in. There is much we can learn from the past, both the negative as well as the positive.

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I didn't grow up in the "Father Knows Best" era, but I like the show a lot. TV had to evolve and grow, so most of the shows of that day were along the same lines, cut from the same mold.

Most TV is not realistic. It's an escape, often depicting how we wish life were.

All in all, it's not that serious.

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I think most of the cast knew it was far from real US households.

Its that man again!!

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Yeah. The modern feminist concept that fathers are completely worthless to a family is sooo much. The fact that so many fatherless boys end up, committing most of the atrocious crimes today... because they just don't have the same guidance as they did with the dad present in their lives.

The thing is men have to have motivation to stay with their family. Men are built to plant the seed and move on. It's a woman's own vanity and hatred for being... god forbid, wrong that keeps driving men away. They will never allow men to feel proud about being right.

Instead of Mrs. Cleaver, we have a bunch of Peg Bundy. Instead of a grown woman who actually appreciates her husband for all that he does, and isn't so blindly selfish that her life and future means more to her than the happiness of her family... you know, a RESPONSIBLE ADULT, we have women begging the government for a hand out, whining that they don't get their way all the time.

Feminism destroyed the family unit, because it told people like yourself, that caring for each other is wrong and evil. It propped women up on such a high pedestal that they lorded over men, from then on. And most of the reasons for this exaggerated bullsh!t.

The fact is... before feminism took hold in 1973, women were able to go to school, have careers, be independent. But, the love for men or love for having a family was greater than selfish desires to be workhorses for a corrupt government. It's very natural. Men are natural providers and protectors. Women are natural nurturers. Together, men and women fit together like perfectly connecting puzzle-pieces.

BUT, feminists indoctrinated all women to believe that connection was inherently wrong for them. It was only going to lead women to a life of servitude.... as if wanting to please your loved ones is evil or something.

The fact of the matter is Western women were NEVER oppressed. How many oppressed people have oppressors that willingly and eagerly sacrifice themselves for them? How many oppressed have oppressors, willing to make asses of themselves just to gain their favor?

Maybe you can say that men and women have been enslaved by the same natural concepts since the dawn of time. It's not JUST women.

Also, what kind of a person doesn't value the happiness of the person that brings home most of the money, providing for the futures for your children, for every meal, for every piece of clothing? Talk about appreciation. Spoiled brat refuse to see where it came from. Spoiled brats can't take responsibility for their own actions. They only want more and more, to be more and more irresponsible and childlike. Like so many modern women. I don't know why men didn't just completely give up on women with the feminist regime came to power.

Those brave men that came back from WWII saw worse things than you, and I or anyone else today will EVER know. They saw friends explode on grenades. They had bullets whiz by their heads in battle. These men deserves a break. These men were heroes.

To come home and hear a wife, b*tching and moaning about having to clean and cook, after these men lived through all of that... I'd get snarky and disrespectful myself. These women clearly don't respect what those men did, what they survived. They don't care. Vacuuming, doing laundry and cooking is SOOO much worse than laying in the mud, praying that your head isn't shot off the second you stand up.

I can do everything a woman does in a heartbeat and I'd probably enjoy the exercise. I would not want to work all day, throwing pickaxes and shoveling coal, probably dying a bit every day, of black lung. But, god knows, those men were enslaving their women at home. You just know that those men had their wives chained to the basement floor. They released those women when it was time to eat and time for her to clean. LOL

The fact is women have been trying to get out of taking ANY responsibility for their choices since 1973. And, they've raised an entire generation of boys and girls, who not only hate masculinity with a passion, but are so unfocused, they need special drugs.

No one is an adult today. They all want to play and party. They act like the children today are there to ruin their buzz or something. They don't want man-up so to speak and become real, responsible parents. And, it doesn't help that people keep running masculinity down.

Masculinity is important, because it helps people find focus, vigilance, while trying to balance out their aggression. Femininity is nice and sweet. It comforts boo-boos. BUT, masculinity pushes people to achieve, to become better, to change. It instills courage, drive and discipline. Something that most people are severely lacking today.

Feminism killed all of this in a sick, twisted and desperate attempt to gain power. They're like the little girl at recess that you accidentally push, while running some place. She says, "I'm gonna tell on you." Instead of going to another boy to avenge her, she goes to the nearest adult (the government). And this adult is a greedy, unisex freak that has nothing but more power and money on its mind.

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In the texting and tweeting universe, FNB is actually shorthand for "Football 'N' Beer" but we figured out what you meant.

"Talk amongst yourselves." ~ Linda Richman

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You must not have been paying attention. And if you are a feminist, don't watch "family" programming..... There's a new show premiering very soon called, Agent Carter. You'll probably identify/agree with this one much better, but don't blink, because it will, no doubt, be quickly cancelled.

Tricia Burton

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I strongly disagree and reject the OP comments. And because I grew up in the 50s and experienced/lived in a Springfield type setting, I can also personally attest that this show projected typical and positive family values that depicted the era.

And is the OP more proud of society as it is today with so many broken homes, single parents, and forsaken children? LOL!!! It would be a dream to revert back to this time and society once again!!

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I'd also add that FKB featured several episodes that actually questioned conformity & blindly following the status quo -- check out "The Bus to Nowhere" & "Betty Goes Steady" for instance.

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That's an excellent point about today's dumbed down society so completely reliant on their cell phones, and the problem this causes.

The cell phone propogates the immaturity and stupidity of our younger generation. They use it for frivolous things like gaming, gossip, and sexting. Or who is posting the latest tweet or selfie.

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In the very short time I've been engaging in IMDb postings, (the whole internet, in fact) that's one of the Top 3 things that has surprised me the most - the absolutely horrible spelling, and use of the english language in general. I got an extremely unkind post in response to one of mine in which I'd commented about spelling errors, to the extent of being referred to as a "spelling-nazi". People used to take pride in communicating intelligently - with their voices AND their typewriters. Those were, indeed, the good old days!!

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You mean FKB, not FNB

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