Marian and Shane?


Does anyone else here think that the unspoken and uncomnsumated sensuality/lust/love between Marian and Shane is simply one of the most sexy elements to hit the screen? I mean in a creative, subtle way like the old directors had -- which they had to develope to get around "The Code."

Not that I'm in favor of reinstituting the code, mind you. I'm not. But when the code was gone, I think directors lost some of that subtlety, that creativity. Nowdays, bare bodies doing the nasty in full light is about as subtle as it gets.

I think it was Alfred Hitchcock, but I could be wrong, who said something like, "The sexiest scene sometimes is a closed bedroom door."

If Shane were remade today, Hollywood would probably have Joey walk in on Marian and Shane in action in the barn. Or worse, he'd walk in on Joe and Shane...

I love this movie and I hope it never gets remade.

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I really liked the friendship between big Joe and Shane so I was a bit put off when I noticed the sexual tension between Marian and Shane. I wanted big Joe and Shane to be pals without something like that coming between them. I like what another poster said though about how everybody was attracted to Shane because he represented the freedom they gave up.

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I guess you simply cannot put a woman in a picture without the men drooling at her! Though I think it is simply awesome that sexual tension could be portrayed (a little) and the characters DO NOT DO ANYTHING about it. There would simply be no good outcome if they did - the husband would have to die, or be killed, first. Sex attraction or not, NO ONE was going to do anything to break up that family unit, neither of them should have acted on it; Shane eventually moved on as he should, the. end. Awesome. They acted like mature adults, not raging horny idiots full of 'id' (I wantIwantIwant).

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The 'romantic' tension between Shane and Marian would have gone unnoticed by the younger members of the audience in 1953-54, but the adults would pick up on it. That was the beauty of films in this era--they weren't explicit. In this case, the attraction serves as a backdrop - nothing serious ever happens.

It took me decades before I realized that Lt. Cable in South Pacific (1958) had slept with Liat, pretty little Tungkineese (sp?) girl - we saw them kissing, more or less fully clothed, while he sang 'Younger than Springtime'. When I watched the film as an adult, I said 'oh, yeah......... I guess...'

The loss of innocence is one of the great tragedies of Western Civilization. Those who come on here and make smutty remarks about the boy or other innuendos are a sad by-product of a generation that wants to impute their own depraved values onto great works of art of the past. To those I say, You have your own brand of muck, in spades, and plenty of your ilk to share it with - go away and wallow in it and leave us alone.

:-) canuckteach (--:

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It has always been my feeling that the main reason Shane rides away at the end is because he knows if he stays, somehow he and Marian will have a physical love affair which would destroy the family the had become so close to. I think the relationship between Shane and Marian has always been the main focus of the film, with the gun fighter stuff thrown in on the side to make it a western. Did Van Heflin's charecter ever suspect there was a simmering love between Shane and his wife, or was he just dense? So totally obvious to me.

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I agree. I think Starret was aware of the emotional connection and the attendant "potential" for a physical connection between Shane and Marion (successfully resisted by both parties). Starret as much as states that to Marion in their home before he tries to go out to face Ryker. Starret is not as unsophisticated as his life's circumstances might, at first blush, indicate. However, Starret "trusts" Marion, no doubt with good reason, and Shane too. A refreshingly old-fashioned and values affirming attitude (on the part of all three, actually) -- considering it isn't to be found in the films of today.

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How could anyone not see that they fancied each other? I could definitely see something there – those glances, those chats with her son about him - Marian definitely liked him as more than just an extra set of hands around the ranch. And maybe she knew him before, but it wasn’t just a knowledge of his past that had them looking at each other surreptitiously all the time. There’s that little scene where she’s desperately looking for a nice dress – now we find out later that it’s her 10 year anniversary, not just the 4th of July – but, at first, it seemed to me like she wanted to make herself pretty firstly for Shane. I might be wrong, but doesn’t her husband remark that it’s a bit early to be dressed? And whenever she talks to her son she warns him not to get too attached to Shane, as if she has to remind herself as well. Her husband seemed to eventually pick up on something (or maybe the idea that the two might be able to live together if he were to die fighting off the gang was first formulated then) when he watched Shane and Marian dancing. It may just be me but I see this slight glimmer of realisation (not quite jealousy) in his eyes.

Clearly Marian loves her husband, and she wouldn’t be unfaithful to him – because where would running off with some gunslinger get her? But that doesn’t mean that she wasn’t curious. There weren’t exactly that many men around, especially younger, attractive ones, so when a mysterious man walks into your life, even stays on your farm, you’re bound to be a little intrigued. When she says goodbye to him I get the sense that they’re both thinking “in another place, in another time maybe we could’ve had something”. But she knows that it’s her place and ultimately in her best interest to stick with the man who built her home, fathered her child and cared for her for a decade, and that a relationship with Shane, while possibly fun for a while, would not last.

Hector Barbossa; now that's a pirate!

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The husband obviously thinks so.

Remember his little speach to his wife? something like

"i'm a little slow but I see things, I see you would be looked after better than I could, Now is a good time for me to go"


remember the boy at the end?

"mother wants you, I know she does"

if thats not a big clue but in buy teh writers I don't know what is.

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Even if they felt something for each other they wouldn't consider doing anything about it unless she happened to be single at the time. I could see them being a pair under different circumstances. I believe the looks they gave each other told the story.

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Did you see the look on Joe's face when Shane was dancing with Marian.

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In "Pale Rider", which is essentially a remake of "Shane", Carrie Snodgress throws herself at Clint Eastwood only to be rebuffed.

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