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How many songs make a musical?


When Lizabeth Scott sang a song early in the movie, a question popped into my mind: How many songs does a movie have to have to be classified as a musical? Obviously, one song does not a musical make. And as I figured that would be her only song, I thought that would be the end of my musings. But then she sang another, and another, and another, until by the end of the movie she had sung five in all. And yet, I still do not regard this movie as a musical. Nor does IMDb or Netflix so classify it either. Moreover, I have no doubt that if they had managed to squeeze one more song into this movie, it still would not count as a musical.

Obviously, it would not be an expressionistic musical, where people sing and dance in an unrealistic manner. But it could be thought of as a backstage musical, which is realistic in the sense that all the singing and dancing occurs on a stage or during rehearsals, much as might actually happen in real life. And yet, not even in this sense is Dark City a musical.

The only thing I can figure is that in a backstage musical, the plot centers around the performers as they strive to be successful, whereas in this movie, the action centers around people that are not part of the performance, and Scott’s songs are just fillers. In fact, she even says early on that she cannot sing and that it is just a way of making a living.

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Good question. I certainly don't regard Dark City as even remotely a musical. It's more like a crime thriller, or as many like to say today, a Noir. That it has a lot of songs says, IMO, more about its producer Hal Wallis, and his relationship with the film's leading lady, Lizabeth Scott, than genre. Wallis and Paramount were building Miss Scott up to be a major movie attraction; and part of her appeal was, they hoped, her singing.

Liizabeth Scott did well enough in Hollywood for about a dozen years, appeared in all kinds of movies. Her career bore some similarities to that of Lauren Bacall, who was rather better known due to her marriage to Humphrey Bogart, which put her in a fortunate spot at her studio, Warners.

Every little bit helped back then when the major studios reigned supreme. Doris Day, a bigger star than either Misses Scott or Bacall, began her career as a big band singer, and early in her movie career at Warners she was still known as primarily a popular singing star who appeared mostly in musicals. As the years went by Miss Day's musical films were fewer, as she evolved more a mainstream actress who could sing (see The Man Who Knew Too Much) rather than primarily a star of musical films. This was a common career trajectory back then, as one can see in the careers of stars of a somewhat earlier vintage (Ginger Rogers, Joan Blondell, Rita Hayworth).

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Too many. I hate musicals. :)

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Too many for this type of film. The running time is 98 minutes. So I think maybe two songs would have suited it. Five songs is over-egging it.

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a lot of good ones, or one great one.

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