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Commentary by Schickel + Hickman



This topic is briefly discussed within other threads on this page, but I thought I'd start one specifically for it.

After seeing this film a few times in the past, a friend and I decided to watch it last night with the commentary for a change. It started out okay. Richard Schickel's approach reminded me a bit of Tim Lucas whose commentary on Mario Bava films are always quite informative and very interesting. Schickel would give some personal background on the cast and crew, and intermittently keep us up to speed on the plot. Hickman, who played Cornel Wilde's little brother Danny in the film, at first gives us some insight on the world of child actors.

It is immediately obvious that Richard & Darryl recorded their parts separately, which were later spliced together to form one commentary track.

As the film progressed we noticed that Schickel seemed to disappear for long stretches at a time, only popping in now and again to keep us abreast of a plotline or some social aspect of the time. As the film wore on Hickman became the main speaker and he began criticizing his co-workers and crew. I realize his thoughts are all memories from a child's point of view, but his criticism, particularly of his co-worker's acting skills, started getting a bit tiresome. One moment he would recall how "gorgeous" Gene Tierney looked, then seconds later he would point out what an inept actress he thought she was. Early on Hickman mentions that he teaches acting, and by the last half of the film it felt like his commentary was a self-promoting info-mercial for his teaching school. It got to the point where my friend and I joked that at any moment we wouldn't be surprised to hear him say, "and YOU too can own my secrets of method acting for three low monthly installments of only $19.95!"

Hickman also states that while he did not follow Miss Tierney's career after "Leave Her to Heaven", he had "heard" she had spent some time in a mental institution. If you are a Gene Tierney afficianado like myself, you know that not only is this true, but that she eventually had a very hard time coping with everyday life. The birth of her developmentally disabled daughter and the pressure of her profession would not only lead her into being institutionalized, but also a victim of shock therapy which would erase entire periods of her life from her memory. This ultimately led to her dropping out of Hollywood completely by the mid 1950's, only to appear again in a few small roles in the 1960's.

I thought the commentary on this DVD started strong, but as Schickel's contributions dwindled halfway through the film, it left the door open for Hickman to basically vent his feelings on how tough it was being a child actor. This would have been okay if this were an A&E special on this specific subject, but I was looking forward to a little more information regarding the filming of "Leave Her to Heaven". And in this respect I thought the commentary on this DVD fell quite a bit short. If I really wanted to hear Darryl Hickman's repeated criticism of his fellow cast members' inability to "act" and the hardships of child actors I would read his autobiography. But after listening to his commentary track, I won't have to now.

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I'm glad someone brought this up. (My knowledge of the history behind this film or most films is too spotty to raise it.)
It's been a few years since I listened to the commentary but I was put off as well by Hickman's contribution. My first reaction was "Please stay on topic."
At any rate, your last paragraph sums things up perfectly.

There was one more minor thing about the commentary by Richard Schickel. At one point when he's describing the characters' attire at Back of the Moon; he seems surprised that they would dress more formally than well, today. For goodness sakes, has it ever occurred to him that people in the mid 1940s-even those outside work- might not be in t shirts and shorts?!

I'm supposed to be retired. I don't want to get mixed up in this darned thing.
--Vertigo

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I'm surprised all the negative comments herein are about Hickman's commentary. The reason I abandoned listening to the commentary was the sneaking suspicion that Schickel hadn't bothered to actually watch the film before recording his.

Early on he describes Jeanne Crain's character as the "half-sister" of Tierney's. Having just finished watching the movie without commentary I knew that Crain was Tierney's cousin, NOT "half-sister", because she herself said so. THAT error I could chalk up to just getting a minor detail wrong, but when a bit further on Schickel says that Vincent Price will later "get his revenge" on Tierney (or words to that effect) for jilting him, I realized that Schickel was commenting from (faulty) memory and hadn't bothered to rewatch the film before providing his commentary. Why? Because Vincent Price never "gets back" at Tierney. Instead, a critical plot point, he serves as her "avenging angel, " prosecuting Craine and Wilde mercilessly as he'd been instructed to do by Tierney herself, in the letter she wrote him re: her "poisoning".

So I never got to the later comments by Hickman re: his co-workers, and they actually sound valuable. Schickel's lazy work ethic was a real turnoff, and his comments ultimately worthless as a result. But he clearly is getting a "pass" in this thread...

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I realize his thoughts are all memories from a child's point of view, but his criticism, particularly of his co-worker's acting skills, started getting a bit tiresome. One moment he would recall how "gorgeous" Gene Tierney looked, then seconds later he would point out what an inept actress he thought she was.

He also called her "aloof," right? Sounds like someone is bitter Ms. Tierney didn't hit on him during filming.

No, seriously, talking about a dead co-star that way, or even a live one, is more than a bit unprofessional. It's a commentary track, not a film review. If there should have been any criticism, Schickel could have covered it! Considering what went down in Tierney's life around that time, it's remarkable she was able to be civil and act at all. I can imagine Hickman being puzzled and hurt by her behavior then, when he was a kid and didn't know any better. But once he heard about her hardships later, you think he'd be more gracious. And guess what, Hickman? She was this movie's saving grace. I concede she probably possessed more presence than technical skill maybe, but DAMN, what a presence! She's absolutely compelling in the role, chilling.

If I really wanted to hear Darryl Hickman's repeated criticism of his fellow cast members' inability to "act" and the hardships of child actors I would read his autobiography. But after listening to his commentary track, I won't have to now.

Hear, hear! Again, I can easily imagine as a self-centered kid doing that, but time shoulda learned him some humility, durn it!

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I agree. Hickman sounds like a spoiled brat, totally full of himself and his acting. He didn't care about the troubles Ms. Tierney had, only that she wasn't very nice to him. I don't mean he didn't care at the time of the shooting. I mean he didn't care when he recorded the commentary.

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I agree that Darryl Hickman seems to have failed to appreciate what Gene Tierney was going through when she filmed 'Leave Her to Heaven.' Hickman has had a very long career as an actor, and he has been on the other side of the camera as a TV executive, which makes it all the more surprising that he evidently doesn't understand to this day that 'Leave Her to Heaven' depends ABSOLUTELY on the actress playing Ellen Berent. Tierney was in a very frightening position - if her performance didn't work, a very big-budget movie didn't work. Had 'Leave Her to Heaven' been a bomb, Tierney's career - only five years old at the time - would have been very materially damaged.

I also don't think Hickman has sufficient appreciation for what movie acting means to audiences, who are the people whose ticket and video purchases fund the entire giddy enterprise that is Hollywood. "Acting" - as Hickman conceives of it - is almost beside the point; what counts is EFFECTIVENESS. If the public "buys" what you're doing on the screen, that's what matters; the quality of the acting job as defined by other actors doesn't mean bupkes to general audiences. One example should show what I mean: If you want great - truly great - acting on the screen, Laurence Olivier's 'Richard III' has some of the best. But for all the excellence of Olivier's work, 'Richard III' is not a movie that very many people remember and revisit today.

For all the "indicating" and on-set coldness of which Hickman accuses Gene Tierney, her work in 'Leave Her to Heaven' resulted in a movie for the ages, due to a performance that still shatters seventy years after it was filmed. I can see what Hickman's talking about - Tierney was always more an effective screen presence than a finished actress - but I can also see that what Gene Tierney did in the movie worked like gangbusters.

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Insulting or not, I agree with both men's take on the acting. It was mostly second-rate, a weak link in the production.

Tierney's default onscreen demeanor is faux-cheery. She's uneven when attempting to do much more. Her acting limitations are also mentioned on the commentary track for Where the Sidewalk Ends.

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Gene Tierney had an as told to biography back in the eighties. She said that when she was filming a movie with Humphrey Bogart, the Left Hand of God, he noticed her symptoms since his own sister had a breakdown. He spoke to her and was empathetic. I think Hickman being a child when he worked with her would not have noticed.

As for Tyrone Power having limited range, I think had he lived longer he would have improved and been a terrific character actor. He was great in Witness for the Prosecution as part of the ensemble cast.

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Hickman did indeed sound as a spoiled brat on the commentary DVD. Many child actors didn't seem to pay too much attention to their adult actors back in the day. As for his thinking Tierney was just like her Ellen character, maybe that's how she was staying in "character", but him being a child or young teenager, he wouldn't have known that.
I, too, was hoping to hear or see some of the tricks or behind the scenes information - not the ramblings of a disgruntled youth.
I know I have read a lot of articles about how actors who are playing certain types stay in that character throughout filming so as not to lose those emotions or characteristics. Personally, I think they got the wrong Hickman brother to play Danny!

Fasten your seat belts. Its going to be a bumpy night!
~Bette Davis in All About Eve

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Hickman is such a proponent of living the truth in acting, yet never seems to realize that Tierney's attitude off-screen, whether intentional or not, serves the film and the relationships it depicts.


He seems to be still "Danny" and exacting his revenge on Ellen through bitter criticism.


Useless, Gene Tierney gives a fascinating and cinematically effective performance.

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I couldn't tell the difference between Schickel's and Hickman's voices -- so I had a problem knowing who was trashing whom.

That said, I'd always heard that Darryl Hickman brutally trashed Gene Tierney in the DVD commentary, but once I heard it, I really disagree.

I don't think he was particulary tough on her at all. The lady had problems, and I didn't see his comments as being all that harsh.

--
LBJ's mistress on JFK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcXeutDmuRA


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Though somewhat annoying in this film, Hickman has done some good work, especially as troubled youth Matt in Fighting Father Dunne.

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"One moment he would recall how "gorgeous" Gene Tierney looked, then seconds later he would point out what an inept actress he thought she was."

So? An actor can't be both gorgeous and inept? Thought that was almost a rule in Hollywood.

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