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This kid is a legitiamtly bad person

posted 4 years ago by kuatorises (7467)
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"John Boyega Calls Out Star Wars for Giving ‘All the Nuance’ to White Characters"

https://www.glamour.com/story/john-boyega-calls-out-star-wars-for-giving-all-the-nuance-to-white-characters

You weren't given less screen time than Ridley and Driver because you're black, but because they are THE MAIN CHARACTERS. What a fake fucking argument from a completely classless guy.

Oh, and Oscar Isaac's character was made the leader of the Rebels, but sure. Disney is racist.

Ain't the first time he's played this card either. He was big into the protests, which is fine, do what you want in your free time. I actually respect the way he did it in his free time way more than athletes that can't be bothered to do it outside of work. But then he claims he'd never work again, IN HOLLYWOOD, the most liberal place in the country.

"Star Wars actor John Boyega fears for career after speaking up for Black Lives Matter, Hollywood rises in support"

https://www.hindustantimes.com/hollywood/star-wars-actor-john-boyega-fears-for-career-after-speaking-up-for-black-lives-matter-hollywood-rises-in-support/story-UfQvgsBpaRVp8PAPcGX7ZO.html

What a bogus false flag of an argument. You cannot logically claim a problem when it doesn't exist yet. It's like starting a fight and claiming you were defending yourself. It's a tactic. You manufacture a problem, claim racism, so if you don't get work, you can "prove" it to be true.

Then there was the time he made the comment about Finn banging Rey:

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What a complete and total scumbag.

[–] Burk48917 (11372) 4 years ago

Yeah, he never considered that he might not be that great of an actor.

[–] kuatorises (7467) 4 years ago

Or that his character wasn't the main one? Or even top 2 or 3? This guy's ego is ridiculous.

[–] djangounlamed (1769) 4 years ago

He was though one of the three main characters. Rey, Kylo and him.. the story even revolved around him and Rey.

I dont blame it on racism though, I blame it on Rian Johnson and Disneys sheer ineptitude.

[–] janelsenor (2044) 4 years ago

I can understand the fact that he's upset his character was short-changed. If he thinks Disney only does that to black people, he needs to have a talk with Andy Serkis.

[–] kuatorises (7467) 4 years ago

Or Oscar Isaac, who became the new "General Leia" and he's a minority. This guy pulled such a scumbag move.

[–] Otter (24464) 4 years ago

Yes, his character was short-changed.

So were most of the other characters, regardless of race, because the writing in the last film went the way of the last season of 'Game of Thrones'.

If he'd pull his head out of his ass and pay attention to other people, he might realize that all the actors had to deal with bad writing.

[–] Bateman (601) 4 years ago

I mean, it absolutely must have been a race thing, you know? It's not like THE Star Wars protagonist, blond-haired & blue-eyed Luke Skywalker, was treated by this trilogy with utter contempt or anything, is it?

...Oh. Right.

[–] maximmm (3343) 4 years ago

BLM!!! lol

[–] uridon2 (184) 4 years ago

He shouldve been the main, the disney films suck and fuck off tmz shill faggot

[–] Threadkiller (3080) 4 years ago

Han Solo was not the main character (Probably why Harrison Ford wasn't crazy about playing him) but but had loads of nuance .

Boyega isn't wrong in that his character had very little nuance & development but he's slightly off in suggesting that Kylo & Rey did. The difference was they attempted to give them nuance (but still failed like with most everything else) but never really tried with Finn. His potential was completely squandered by Abrams in the first film which is why nobody knew what to do with him moving forward.

[–] maximmm (3343) 4 years ago

I can tell you right now that among the big name black actors, Boyega isn't listed very high in terms of skill/charisma.
Harrison ford was already a fairly big name and he is the only one from the original trilogy who did really well for himself after the trilogy - was it because he was the whitest of them all? lol

Comparing Boyega vs. Ford..... there is a very good reason why you shouldn't do that. If Boyega had half the acting skills/charisma of other big name black actors, we may have something to talk about.

[–] Threadkiller (3080) 4 years ago

Harrison Ford was not a big name at all before Star Wars (1977). There's no denying Harrison Ford's of but it's not like Mark Hamill or Carrie Fisher were lacking in something to explain why their careers never took off after Star Wars. While I do personally think that Harrison Ford had the most charisma it was largely the huge success of Raiders that made him a certifiable star outside of Star Wars. I think Boyega is a fine actor in the right role. Sure he's no Harrison Ford but Finn was a very poorly handled character through no fault of his own but then so were most of the characters in one way or the other in that disastrous Di$ney trilogy

[–] maximmm (3343) 4 years ago

Not true - American Graffiti put Harison Ford on the map long before SW ever did - though he became huge proper after SW and Indiana J. He was a star with a name at that point - Not a superstar per se, but still a name people recognized. Boyega, on the other hand..... well, he seems to be getting a name, but perhaps for all the wrong reasons?

But these days, football players are getting names for activism - actors are striving towards the same thing. At least M. Ali had skills to go along with his activism, so he made a name in dual arenas. Today though.... activism trumps all. Wokism/cancel culture - welcome to the 21st century.

[–] Threadkiller (3080) 4 years ago

I'm sorry you disagree but you are simply incorrect about American Graffiti making Harrison Ford a big name star. He had a relatively small supporting role. He was a small time actor until Star Wars, which made him a star along with Hammil & Fisher. It was the role of Indiana Jones that truly catapulted him to superstar leading man status. It's all well documented so you don't have to take my word for it.

Anyway back to Boyega. I don't think making a few public statements against racism in light of troubling current events makes Boyega an activist. He'll move on and focus on his career soon enough. He's never going to be the next Denzel (who is honestly? )but I think his career still has much potential, in spite of the garbage Di$ney he was a part of.

[–] christomacin (4658) 2 years ago

Correct. Ford himself said he didn't get the career boost he was hoping for after American Graffiti and The Conversation and was considering leaving the acting profession.

[–] kuatorises (7467) 4 years ago

"Boyega isn't wrong in that his character had very little nuance & development but he's slightly off in suggesting that Kylo & Rey did."

No, he's wrong because he said it's based on race. 2nd time he's pulled that shit lately too. Earlier this year he said he was afraid of losing work because he attended protests. He created an issue that didn't exist yet. He created a false narrative. If he doesn't get work in the future, it could be for plenty of reasons (like him not being a very good actor), but because he already said this, he'll play this card whenever he doesn't get much work or a big as role as he'd like. And lose work in HOLLYWOOD for protesting, LOL? He's an idiot.

Oscar Isaac's character becoming the new leader of the Resistence disagrees. Poe was barely a factor in the first two and of the secondary characters, he became the main one by the time the series finished.

They randomly brought in that girl (Jaina is it?) in the third movie and shoehorned her into the main battle. That was done strictly BECAUSE OF diversity.

Lando is a supporting character and got wonderful development in the OT.

Fuck this clown.

[–] Threadkiller (3080) 4 years ago

I'm very curious how a non racist could possibly have such a degree of vitriol towards a person for attending one organized demonstration meant to bring awareness to & condemn racism. All he said, essentially amounting to "racism is bad"

He created a "false narrative" that anti black racism is a thing & that it's bad thing? Not a "false narrative" to anyone who isn't a white supremacist type i'm afraid. Also Boyega being concerned about it affecting his career is not unfounded. Despite the recent social anti racism protests going on that has created a (temporary) climate for black celebrities to feel a bit braver to speak out, he's thinking about when things go back to normal.

There are certain things in Hollyweird that have been okay to be a vocal activist about. In Hollyweird, vocal outspoken activism about lbgt issues & feminism is practically incentivized, let alone tolerated. On the other hand, mainstream black actors being vocal activists of black social issues, fighting against systemic racism/white supremacy hasn't been a big thing. The idea has long been to not "rock the boat" & make some people (casual racists) uncomfortable by speaking out against racism. Well, it looks like he's made some people uncomfortable/angry.

As I've said, the intersting irony/hypocrisy is that one of the most common fan criticisms of the Di$ney trilogy for years has been how Finn was a wasted opportunity as a character who ended up being nothing more than a bumbling token black sidekick character to check a box. But when Boyega finally acknowledges this himself it's all of a sudden "F*ck him!" Funny how that works.

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

Typical black privilege: when you don't get your way cry racism.

[–] FootOfDavros (8197) 2 years ago

The problem was that Finn was basically the Jar Jar Bink's of the DT. And that should have been clear as day to John when he was first given the TFA script to have a read through.

He probably didn't really give a rats that was the case when he signed up though, as he was completely unknown and - even although I'm sure it was incredibly modest compared with an established lead star's - he no doubt got a decent paycheck.

Subsequently though I'm sure he read a lot of criticism from black rights / equality campaigners, who wouldn't have really cared about Star Wars per se, nor the fact he was filling the Jar Jar role, and would have began to feel like he'd been a bit of a sellout.

But still - that didn't stop him taking the bumbling clown role on again for TLJ! Again a quick read through of Finn's comedy antics in the first five minutes of that film, should have reiterated the point that he was playing the Jar Jar and not Luke Skywalker role in these films. He could have walked but no, he stayed and dutifully played out his nonsense role.

Therefore it's pretty hard to have any sympathy for his subsequent discrediting of the role and attempts at virtue signalling. The guy took the money to perform the clown dance, then was ashamed of it after the fact. No one to blame for that but himself.

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

My brother's colleagues have worked with him, and they apparently advised him that Boyega was delightful and really cool to work with.

Since I tend to put more faith in what regular people say, based on their first-hand experience, rather than what celebs or entertainment sites say, or for that matter people who've never met the individual being discussed, then I'll take their word for it.