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shareDoes that list tell you anything about how out of tune Gold Derby is these days?
Only Harington actually got a nomination.
Vanity Fair's prediction indicates what voters have to be thinking. After the initial hype over the big budget production of Battle of the Bastards, stop, take a deep breath, and consider acting awards should be about acting, not stunts.
Supporting Actor in a Drama: Jonathan Banks
It is actually the opposite, it shows you that the Emmy's are out of touch with the audience, but then again this is nothing new. If they were actually in touch with their audiences then it wouldn't have been necessary for them to award actors a year after they should have been rewarded in the first place. Peter Dinklage was apparently rewarded for his season 4 arc last year, and now they or the critics seemingly want to reward Jonathan Banks for his good season last year. Clearly they are out of touch with current events.
The Emmy's has lost around 4 million viewers in the last two years, that really tells you something. The Emmy's are slowly becoming more and more irrelevant. Then again perhaps this is a problem that most award shows faces these days.
I think most people will not mind if Jonathan Banks wins this year, he has been nominated a few times. I personally always really liked his character, although it also isn't actually a role where he ever displayed a lot of range.
But if he wasn't able to win last year against Peter Dinklage then it is doubtful that he will be able to do so this year. Better Call Saul had much more buzz after last year, since coming directly from Breaking Bad, they have been completely overshadowed this year by new nominees such The Americans and Mr Robot.
In any event the final voting for the Emmy's ended on Friday the 29th of August.
Luckily for the other nominees within this category they will have a chance to win next year, when Game of Thrones will not be eligible for the Emmy's.
I will just post what I posted on the Game of Thrones Board:
Kit Harington always had the most of the disadvantages stacked against him in this category of all the nominees, if we look at the history of the Emmy's.
The Emmy's simply loves repeat winners, Modern Family won 5 years in row, Julia Louis-Dreyfus is going for a 6th win this year. Jeffrey Tambor and Viola Davis are likely to be repeat winners this year, Allison Janney seems likely to be a 3rd time winner.
A lot of critics are also starting to lean towards Maggie Smith, in the Support Drama Actress category.
Going up against Peter Dinklage, when you look at how much the Emmy's likes to reward the same people, places someone like Kit Harington at a severe disadvantage.
The most ridiculous example this year is Margo Martindale, who has won as Guest Drama Actress for two years in a row with less than 2 minutes of screentime in her season, where she doesn't do anything. The Emmy's really love their veteran actors. But these actors also sometimes receive a negative backlash for this phenomenon, we already saw some of that when Peter Dinklage won last year. If he wins again this year it will be stronger.
The problem in this category is that most of the people who are nominated did not actually have good seasons on their respective shows. Peter Dinklage has experienced two quiet seasons where he is basically just a jokester.
Michael Kelly, Ben Mendelsohn and Jonathan Banks all had great seasons and submissions in the previous year, one of them should really have won this award last year, but they lost to Peter Dinklage who didn't have a great submission or season.
This year Jonathan Banks, Peter Dinklage and Ben Mendelsohn did not have good seasons or good submissions.
The only good submissions this year comes from Kit Harington and Jon Voight. Many people would like to see Jonathan Banks win this year since he has been nominated 3 times already, but since he lost against Peter Dinklage with his best submission yet it seems very unlikely that he is going to win against him with not such a good submission.
Jon Voight might have been an interesting choice since he is a well known veteran actor, but it seems like Ray Donovan isn't such a highly regarded show or there might not be enough people who watch the show.
That leaves us with Kit Harington as the person who really should win this year. On Goldderby someone made the observation that Kit's submission is perhaps something similar to Leonardo Dicaprio's Oscar submission for the Revenant, where the story or camera basically follows the character closely through his journey.
The Battle of the Bastards might perhaps not be a traditional type of submission, but we are taken along a story where the character changes, with a beginning and an end, it is a full arc.
He starts the episode very resigned to his fate, he is afraid of dying again, but at the same time he has accepted that they will most likely lose. He doesn't have his usual enthusiasm or purpose, because he believes he is leading everyone to their death. When he sees Rickon he decides to make a last desperate lunge to save a family member before he dies. (This is something he was never allowed to do when he was in the Nights Watch). He truly believes he is about to die again. He is surprised after surviving the charge of the cavalry, and he loses himself in the bloodthristy chaos of the battle.
When they become surrounded, Jon slowly loses hope again, and he is crushed underneath his soldiers, when he is down he gives up completely for a moment, but then suddenly he decides that he actually wants to life, and he claws his way back to the top.
After reaching the top, the Vale arrives. He is surprised by the horns of the Vale, then he is washed over by complete anger, his will to kill Ramsay drives him towards Winterfell. When he finally reaches Ramsay he almost kill him with his bare hands, but he regains his composure and he decides to leave Ramsay for Sansa.
We see him taking charge of the aftermath of the battle, this is perhaps the first time during season 6 when he really takes charge of something again, he has finally decided that he wanted to be alive. He might have been resurrected at the end of episode 2, but his spirit was only reborn again during the battle. Jon's arc this season was very subtle, a lot of people missed a lot of his arc. But this episode does tell a story, his story.
For Emmy submission purposes Oathbreaker might have been a more traditional submission. He was very good in that episode and he displayed a wide range of emotion.
Although another slight advantage of the Battle of the Bastards is that, it is the episode which has been submitted in a lot of different categories, if the Emmy voters are going to look at one Game of Thrones episode this will properly be the one that they will see.
All of that being said the Emmy process is still mostly against him, especially in the supporting category. He is one of the youngest nominations in something like 30+ years. The male supporting category really likes to reward older men, with more quirky roles. Jon Snow is anything but a quirky type of role, the more heroic roles are usually in the lead actor category. On top of that there is something that can be described a hunk-curse, where the good looking male characters, are often overlooked in the supporting acting category.
Taking all of these things into consideration, yes it honestly would not surprise me in the least if Peter Dinklage won this category again this year. It is not Peter Dinklage's fault, he almost looked embarrassed when he won last year.
But these repeat wins are making the Emmy's more out of touch with its audiences, it makes these awards more irrelavant. In the last two or so years alone the Emmy's has lost over 4 million viewers.