I don't get this...the dude claimed to do what he did because he had issues with health insurers.
Mangione came from a wealthy family; what on earth does the dude have to complain about? I know the health care system in the US is far from perfect, but to kill someone over it is criminal. Now the dude is being given so much press, which seems to be exactly what this guy wants. He's trying to play the martyr.
And even more sick, they say 40% of America believes the killing was "justified." I have more problems with individual doctors than I do with healthcare companies. I still wouldn't kill them. Killing, folks, is wrong. And if you can "justify" it with one person, why not with another? It takes twisted logic to justify killing someone, but if you can do it with one, you can do it with anyone who bugs you. Is that the sort of society we want?
And then, as you say, the perps will all try to play the martyr, because, after all, the murder was "justified." 🤦🏼♀️
the dude was evil and deserved to die, it’s called street justice
shareI think people who kill people -- or advocate for it -- are evil. When we start killing people based on our opinions -- and I notice you're big on opinions, but not so much on proof, just like ol' Trev down there -- then we're going to have hell on earth.
You cut someone off in traffic. He's had a bad day, and he's packing. At the next light he gets out and pops you and whoever is in the car with you. "They were evil. They deserved it."
Whether you, your family, your loved ones live or die will be entirely based on someone else's opinion on whether you're evil or not, and if they're just sick enough to think the "evil" people ought to die.
And what if the next vigilante wants to kill amoral people? Buh-bye. Or maybe stupid people? And remember -- it's always up to HIS opinion of who is what and whether that's deserving of death. That's the society you're advocating for.
So maybe that girl who killed people in her school library thought they were "evil" and deserved to die. Her opinion is as good as that loser back-shooter, Luigi Mangione.
And so what if they don't get a bunch of stupid people to cheer them? They won't know the unthinking mob doesn't agree with them until the people they think deserve killing are dead.
There’s a difference between cutting someone off in traffic and murdering millions. I don’t weep for a dead mass murderer. Were you this upset when the whole country cheered when Bin Laden died? He had a wife and kids too….
shareSo prove he's a mass murderer. Or are you simply parroting what other people said.
We could prove bin Laden took down the Twin Towers. He bragged about it. We could show the rosters of those who died. But none of you guys seem able to prove your statements. "You know!" you say like little kids. In my personal experience single-payer insurance is truly lethal.
Um, he was the CEO of a company that’s emitted to using faulty AI to reject insurance claims. There is no guessing there. He profited off the death of thousands, even millions. Fuck him (btw, there’s no proof Bin Laden actually died :D)
shareLink, please. I'm particularly interested in more about this company that "emitted."
I can say you're a sociopath who advocates for the murder of healthcare CEOs and is therefore a domestic terrorist. I can point to your posts as "proof." Will it get you locked up? No, because you never have links, you don't prove anything, and you're just some rando ignorantly shooting off his mouth.
The burden of proof is not on me shawtty. It’s on you to prove me wrong :D
So far you have not presented one shred of evidence either. So we’re at a standstill.
Here's someone assuming that someone needs to die because he has the "wrong" political views. https://x.com/rawsalerts/status/1869846543978623248
This is the kind of society you're advocating for.
What if someone decides you "deserve" to die for your wrongthink? You opened that door.
Well if I was a nefariously evil CEO that profited off the deaths of millions, I would hire bodyguards lol . I mean come on, the guy was walking round with a target on his back.
shareNow you're saying he personally profited off the deaths of "millions." And you still don't prove it.
And you're still defending murdering the man because he "deserved" to die, under a post proving people are now using the "he deserves to die" mantra as their excuse to kill anyone they think "deserves to die."
I told you that your idolizing Mangione would bring this on. When crazies are shooting anyone they think "deserves to die," remember you're one of the people who started it.
Brian Thompson is responsible for helping introducing AI software that found loopholes and algorithms that allowed United Health to deny over 90% of claims. Which means they took people's money every single month and then denied 90% of their claims. Which means hundreds of thousands of people died or will never live a healthy life or live a pain free life again, because of Brian Thompson.
Brian is really just a middle manager in the world of healthcare and pharmaceuticals.
People cheered while Kyle Rittenhouse was found not guilty because it was self-defense. People cheered when Daniel Penny was found not guilty. Because it is seen as he was trying to protect the people on the train. People celebrate the death of Floyd. Why would Brian Thomson's death be any different any the numerous of deaths that are celebrated and made fun of?
Could we not make an argument that Brian Thompson is responsible for more misery than Floyd could ever cause? Could one make an argument that Brian Thompson destroyed more families than Trayvon Martin could ever hurt? More families have been affected by the Brian Thompsons of the world, than the opioid crisis, which again, I can make an argument is also cause by the Brian Thompsons of the world.
100% agreed. I've no idea why so many people jump to the defence of people like this who get fat and rich off ruining people's lives. this board is filled with politically obsessed losers though so it doesn't really surprise me that they're all instantly taking the side they're brainwashed into taking without giving it any real thought
share...evil CEO profited off deaths of millions...
Don't you think you're exaggerating a bit?
Rejecting claims for cancer patients? Nope 🙂↔️
shareIf one death is "justified" because "he deserved it" in the opinion of a fellow who's likely to plead insanity, then any lunatic shooting anyone to death is "justified." Isn't he?
This is a question you'll side-step.
Well yes, there’s a lunatic doing a mass shooting every week in the US and apparently that is “justified” thanks to our god given rights. So he was just exercising his rights according to repubs :D
shareNo, not thanks to our "god given rights." It's "justified" because the lunatic believed all those people "deserved to die," just like you believe that CEO "deserved it."
Are you now, out of your other face, trying to argue that gun violence is bad? You were saying killing people who "deserved it" was "justified" before.
Are you just trolling, or do you actually believe any of the manure you're shoveling?
Yes, I clearly just said that the second amendment advocates for self defense against tyranny. So according to republicans you are saying he “deserved to die” thanks to our god given rights? Yet you’re the one saying gun violence is bad because a CEO died, but not because innocent people die everyday from it? I don’t think you even know what point you’re making.
shareYou're the amoral guy saying "he deserved it."
No, just because you have the right to own a gun doesn't mean you can back-shoot some guy because you disagree with his policies. "Oooh! But I just labelled those policies 'tyranny'! And since I decided those policies are 'tyranny,' he deserves it because it's my 'god given right.'"
Before I was arguing that anyone who announced someone "deserved it" would be able to kill that person, using your diseased logic. Now it's if the perp announces the other guy is oppressing him with "tyranny," as defined by him. One way or the other, you get to define the warrant, and that warrants death, using your diseased logic.
On my planet, murder is wrong. I'm sorry you missed that part in your Sunday School or morality studies, but it's true.
I saw a woman today on Twitter who said that she was a fourth stage cancer patient, incurable, and the insurance company wouldn't pay for her treatments. She should be looking around for experimental treatments. Donald Trump signed a law allowing stuff that hadn't passed the FDA to be used on patients like her. Maybe, like my husband, she could get something that would add quality years to her life. And if she has decent doctors, they'll keep up on the treatments. It was the doctors who failed my husband, not the insurance companies. And thanks to Trump, most end stage cancer patients have hope.
He deserved it for being a dummy and being so arrogant as to not hire a bodyguard while walking around as one of the most hated people in America. It was his own fault. Darwin Award.
shareYou're an arrogant, stupid, amoral jerk. Do you deserve to be backshot?
To prove you're an arrogant, stupid, amoral jerk, you say he was walking around as one of the "most hated people in America," and therefore deserved to be shot. Actually, most people had never heard of the guy. All of the stories in the news about him had to identify who he was so most of America would even know who he was. He can't be "one of the most hated people in America" when most of America doesn't even know what his name is. But you think so, because you're an arrogant, stupid, jerk. You're amoral because you think murder is justifiable. Hence, arrogant, stupid, amoral jerk.
And even though you're arguably an arrogant, stupid, amoral jerk, you still don't deserve to be shot -- in the back or otherwise. Why? Because murder is WRONG, you arrogant, stupid, amoral jerk.
You're debating a clown.
when most of America doesn't even know what his name is.
Once you get to the point where you have to explain to the clown that murder is wrong, it's pretty obvious that he's just trolling. He doesn't care how stupid he looks, just so long as he gets a response. He's gotten one so far because I've been bored. But now even this has gotten boring.
I thought it was a hit job to begin with, but the ditz made so many mistakes that he's clearly not a pro. The ditz targeted the man, but that's as far as the targeting went.
she doesn’t need you to white knight for her you dumbfuck loser, she’s losing the argument as is
sharePardon my French but you sound like a goddamn dumb entitled and clueless, gullible twat. corporate CEOs are among the most hated people on earth and United Health one of the most hated health insurance companies, doesn’t change the fact the guy was a retard for not having bodyguards. You think people can’t find out who he is? Ergo, deserved his own death.
Your doctors probably “failed your husband” because you’re both a couple of insufferable karens. Now piss off already with your inane babbling!
That CEO murdered thousands
shareHe personally did, or his own decisions led to those people being killed.
Interesting opinion. Now prove it.
He was the boss, it was him had to take responsibility, that is management class 101.
shareManagement class 101 actually teaches that there are a lot of people given the task of creating policy in a company.
But even if you want to say he signed off on all of it personally, you now have to prove it killed ____ number of people, and how the insurance company was responsible for it and not the individual doctors.
A CEO determines the strategy, "Deny, defend, depose" is one of such strategies a CEO makes the call.
I find it curious why anyone would actually defend the guy, defend a practice so corrupt left so many dying and broke.
You have conscience, don't you?
So you can't prove it you say? Shocker
shareYou keep saying he did all these things, but you don't PROVE it.
So it's, apparently, your opinion.
And yes, I have a conscience. That's how I know murder is wrong. It's pathetic that you don't. And it doesn't bother you that you can't prove your case.
It is just common sense, if you know what a CEO does.
But I doubt you would admit it even if you knew.
When you are paid to defend the guy it is very hard to be objective. And it is very clear that is what you are doing, and I bet you are going to say I can't prove it.
Actually, I'm talking about all the people you're claiming he killed. We can talk about the direct line to his own hand later. So far you SAY he's killed all these people, but so far it's all talk.
I and my loved ones -- those still alive -- have plenty of horror stories about DOCTORS. I just found out this morning that my insurance doesn't pay for anything experimental, and I'd like to try some pain treatment, but all I've ever run into is little things like that. I might get some edibles and call it good. But no one died.
He personally did, or his own decisions led to those people being killed.
same thing
So Biden's decisions in the Middle East led to the deaths of many American soldiers you say?
shareWow. If some back shooter decided to take him out, these guys would line up to clap like trained seals because murdering him would be "justified." Sick, sick, sick.
I can't believe we're having this conversation, although it does explain the rise in violence we see in society. We have a lot of sick puppies out there.
I saw a chart somewhere that showed it was only 18-29 aged who were positive about Mangione, all other age brackets were negative. I think it's just the brainwashed young generations who went through the far left college system voicing their usual inane preprogrammed positions like they do.
shareso much truth in this post
shareThere are numerous accounts that Brian Thompson was a strong proponent of preventative measures to be covered by insurance and less out-of-pocket costs for the patient.
Thompson, 50, insisted during internal conversations that he understood the public’s growing confusion, including UnitedHealthcare’s work toward eliminating out-of-pocket costs for lifesaving drugs, colleagues told the Washington Post.share
This whole situation is so fucked up.
shareThe progression is king royaly, kill politicians, kill CEOs.
CEOs are the new royalty because they are untoubable due to the belief that "business" is a right.
Royalty was a right, and that fell out of public belief, a leader elected was seen as a right, and now that is not believes, and now we have businessmen have a right because they are in charge of a business.
So, the new progression is to kill them because they have no right.
That's a lead in to communism.
It sounds like you are justifying violence, much like when Timothy McVeigh bombed that building because of his beliefs similar to what you just said.
shareI am.
I'm not a violent person and don't want anyone to be harmed.
I used to work in prison psychology with serial killers and whatnot and didn't want to see them killed.
However, if someone tried to directly hurt and kept trying they would be in for some violence.
I'm sure you would be okay with hearing that someone tried to kill me and I killed them.
Hitler said that killing one person is a tragedy while killing many people is a statistic.
Royalty used ideas about genetics mixed with magic to oppress and kill people. Politicians used political philosophy and now CEO use the idea that "business" and "profit" are legit reasons to oppress and kill people. So, they are the latest people doing the same thing as always and do deserve to be scared or die.
They are attacking people and what happens when you do that you will get the historical logical response.
What about taking them to court? The guy seems to have the money to do so.
Legal action and bad press can achieve more perhaps than violence. Now the guy will spend considerable time in prison, perhaps for the rest of his life. Security will likely be beefed up for corporate executives. What likely won't change is the way the US handles health care. It will be business as usual for corporate America.
However, if someone tried to directly hurt and kept trying they would be in for some violence.
I'm sure you would be okay with hearing that someone tried to kill me and I killed them.
Hitler said that killing one person is a tragedy while killing many people is a statistic.
"He was inconvenienced at best." Maybe so, but not by his victim. There is no record of Lugui having UHC as an insurer or filing a claim with them. There is no known connection between murderer and victim.
shareIt doesn't matter.
People fighting Hitler didn't have to have Hitler do anything to them to fight him.
The CEO wasn't Hitler. I know anyone you don't like it is Hitler, but it doesn't change the fact he wasn't Hitler.
All of these comparisons to Hitler minimalizes what Hitler actually did. I doubt you know what Hitler did.
Don't bother Googling and then doing a copy and paste
BTW, there were at least 11 assassination attempts on Hitler. The assassins were all punished.
The allied powers (i.e. legitimate governments) were "fighting" Hitler (i.e. in a declared war with Germany). What governments declared war on the CEO and UHC?
What about taking a king or Hitler to court?
They control the courts and it will do nothing.
In the US "business" is seen as being good and up to the decision of the business owner. Also, if you don't like that business, go to another one, is the common phrase.
Online businesses can use censorship, because it's up to the owner, but we hate censorship, but it's okay because it's a business.
This kind of no win situation will get people murdered and court will not help because court is part of the oppressive culture.
"What about taking a king or Hitler to court?"
Had Hitler not killed himself he would have gone to court at Neurenberg like his lackies. You don't know a lot about history do you?
Anyone that voted for/enabled Trump has no right to talk about morality. Go away.
shareI'm not a Trump supporter.
shareSeethe & Cope ya P0S … You don’t find it strange tha5 pretty much the same number of people voted for Trump this go around but somehow an extra 14 million votes for Biden in 2020 couldn’t somehow vote for your precious Kambala? Even half that number would have given her the win but with so many eyes on this election cycle extra corpse votes weren’t allowed
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