Van Dam, Segal, Arnold vs Jet Li, Jackie Chan, Tony Jaa?

Schwarzenegger is just muscle, smack him in the solar plexus and he'll go down. Van Damme used to be THE martial arts star (kickboxer,bloodsport,the quest,etc) and I think out of the three Western stars, he is probably the best martial artist. Yeah yeah Seagal know Aikido or whatever, but try grabbing a man after you've been toe kicked in the throat!

Conclusion: Li, Chan and Jaa would win. Jaa has the amazing ability to jump really high and deliver heavy elbows to the skull, Chan is quite the mover, he'd tire Schwarzenegger out in no time. Li would destroy Seagal. He played Wong Fei Hung for crying out loud. Seagal plays Navy Seals who now have a thing for cookery or orphans.

Me: This is more painful than that unfunny family guy joke. :p

i am not meaning to make u look like an idiot so i will try to put this in a delicate way...
1. vann damme is not that good of a martial artist he had a few fights but against no one
2. tony jaa is just a stuntman.
3. aikido is one of the most effective styles of martial arts in the world and not only is steven seagal a master in aikido he holds black belts in kendo, and judo, and seaveral forms of karate.. and the ufc has proven that grappling is more effective then just pure striking. so since seagal is an expert in both striking and grappling u do the math..
4. jet li is a wushu master and wushu is just martial arts dance no real fighting skill,
scwarzennegger is an actual martial artist.. with skills in wrestling aswell thats why they have the arnald classic martial arts tournamants..
5. playing wong fei hung does not make u great,
6 chan is just a stuntman
7. navy seals are masters in hand to hand combat and can kill the ambove average martial artist in a fight and not only did steven seagal play one in movies but he also was a navy seal... him and frank dux co wrote the navy seal hand book

so in closing they are all great at what they do but none of the have the skills of steven seagal.. seagal would kill them all. it only takes 87 lbs of force to uplift a 350lb man off the grownd and slam him to the grownd.
seagal wins the fight..
the only thing they have over him is acting ability

Talking about these men in their prime i asume? Arnold would rip them all apart -.-. Seagal might have a chance but honestly he´s always been a sissy.

Whats that on your face!

This would be true if a real fight was similiar to an arm wrestling match but that isn't true the best comment here is from imlivingontheedgein2007 because he actually explaned his reasoning with good facts. However I think he underestimated Jet Li because Jet Li did not only train in the forms of wushu. And he is probably correct that the American stars would win. This is because in Asia, movie stars tend to be better at preforming than at actual martial arts. Whereas in America many of the action stars are martial artists first then action stars. However do not think that Jackie Chan and Jet Li do not know other martial arts it is just that they care more about making movies.

And about Tony Jaa, He has never trained in the martial arts like say Jet Li. He trained himself as a movie stuntman. That is why he is a good action star.

The world is my oyester but I am allergic to shellfish.

"it only takes 87 lbs of force to uplift a 350lb man off the grownd and slam him to the grownd. "

Despite the figures, I'm still not convinced being thrown to the ground would stop Jaa. The beauty of martial arts is that they have aimed attacks to the weakest links to the body, which I fail to see demostrated in grappling/wrestling.

But what do I know about fighting right? I'm that geek behind the computer screen watching YouTube.

Nothing is more reliable than a man whose loyalties can be bought with hard cash.

again, seagal or arnold easily. the others are way to small to stand a chance, jackie chan might just be fat enough, training ballet for all those years made him a fierce fighter!!

Whats that on your face!

if that is sarcasm, you need to take a course for it. if it isn't, you also need to take a course for it.

Nothing is more reliable than a man whose loyalties can be bought with hard cash.

First of all, you are the idiot.

Tony Jaa is not a stuntman and is a trained fighter in his art.

Arnold is no way a martial artist and wrestling is not a martial art and he is not at all trained in wrestling whatsoever. Yes he is muscular and a pro body builder, but that has nothing to do with wrestling. He would never win in a fight as he would tire much too quickly against a quicker opponent.

Anything can happen in a fight as anyone who has actually been in one can argue. I have seen guys half the size of their opponent beat the hell out of them. It all comes down to whether you can take a hit.