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Tony Jaa's career is a crying shame.


(I realized this is longer than your average post, but it's something I had to get out of my system)

Now don't get me wrong. Most of what Tony Jaa has done has been awesome, and are considered to be modern martial arts classics. But he just turned 37, and what has he done in the last 10 years?

Ong Bak 3 in 2010, Ong bak 2 in 2008, Tom Yum Goong in 2005, and Ong Bak in 2003.

That's it.

What the @#!*% happened??? Jackie Chan in his prime averaged 2-3 movies per year. A bit less for Jet Li, but he would still do at least 1-2 movies per year, pretty much all the time.

So what gives? Is it too much to ask for him to come out with one movie a year, maybe even skipping a year here and there? And yes I know they are apparently filming Tom Yum Goong 2 (speaking of which, are his movies ever going to have a title other than 'Ong Bak' or 'Tom Yum Goong'?) but that's besides the point.

The point is, this guy was going to be the next Jackie Chan. Yes, I know he doesn't have his charisma or his sense of humor....but he definitely could compare with his fighting and acrobatic skills. He was 27 when he made Ong Bak 1. The next decade was the perfect time to crank out some quality martial arts movies. He did two other good movies (Ong Bak 3 was crap), and that's it. So a grand total of 3 movies that are good. @#!*% , Bruce Lee did more that that in 3 years.

And don't get me started on his becoming a monk in 2010. Yeah I know some of you will say 'Let him do what he wants, it's his life', and to that I have two things to say: 1) He can become a monk when he retires. To make Ong Bak 1+2 and The Protector, then just vanish off the face of the earth, is just being a big tease and is completely unfair to the fans. 2)It still doesn't excuse the last (mostly) wasted 10 years, especially since he's still making movies apparently. The fact is, before he became a monk, he could have easily done 2-3 movies in addition to what he's already done.

And some say: quality over quantity. I fully agree. But there are limits. He doesn't have to do 2-3 movies a year. If he did a good movie every 2 years, I'd be fine with that. But he hasn't. His last good movie was 5 years ago, and before that 8 years.

I'm just so disappointed at all that could have been with this guy. It's true that it's not too late to still make some movies, but he'll be 40 in 3 years, and he won't be able to do what he could do in the past. It's just sad.... Maybe they'll do a better job with Iko Uwais (The Raid). His career seems to be doing pretty good so far. And what do you know, in 4 years he'll have done....3 movies!

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I agree that he hasn't handled his career the best, but it seems like you're not filled in on all the details.

If I remember right, he attempted directing Ong-Bak 2 and failed at it, got extremely stressed during the production and left the production, and had his mentor talk him out of his depressed/overwhelmed state and bring the production back to it's feet. He completed Ong Bak 3 out of contractual obligation (it does feel like that, even though I don't hate it as much as many), and speaking of contracts, the business side of things is a large part of the reason for him becoming a monk.

In Thai culture, most men are monks at some point or another, but for another reason, I know I read that he had issues with the studio he was working for, and that Thailand being practically a 3rd world country has some shady practices in it's movie industry. I know that he had some major issues with behind the scenes stuff, he was hounded by goons/thugs that worked for the movie studios, and that he was getting pressure to make more films to fulfill a contract he didn't want to be a part of. I'm pretty sure he became a monk to escape the guys after him and wait out the limitations on his contract.

And even though you said "don't tell me it's his life", that is still true and the case. You sound really entitled how you think he's automatically obligated to keep making movies and becoming the next big martial arts star just because he made a few things he enjoyed.
There are a lot of cases of child actors or new actors making a few projects then deciding that maybe it's really not for them. The kid from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory made only that movie and went on to become a vet for example. There's nothing wrong with that, if his interests changed, that's his choice, he's not committing a crime by not making more good stuff.

As a fan, would it have been nice if there wasn't all those business/drama complications bogging down his career? Sure. Would it be nice if he had made more movies? Truly stepped up to be the next biggest martial arts star? Hell yeah! But it's up to him and what he wants to do, he isn't our slave and isn't under any obligation to do any more than he wants, and we have to accept that.

That would be my biggest advice to the OP of this topic, just learn to accept that which you have zero control over.

"Bulls**t MR.Han Man!!"--Jim Kelly in Enter the Dragon

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totally agree, he was going to be the next big thing in martial arts film but his trajectory did not take off. 27-37 is such an important time as you are still young and strong enough to carry off the acrobatic moves which made Tony famous, as you get older you lose that bounce and spring in your step and i hope Tony realises this and increases his movie workload.

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I agree. I am old school in that i think an actor or performer's output actually matters. A few years ago when everyone was talking about him, there were many saying he's the next Jet Li, Jackie Chan etc. Even though i've never been much for that talk about the "next *insert action star here*", i immediately thought this was an overrating based solely on how prolific he was at the time, or in other words what he had done for the martial arts movie genre.

Think about it, Jackie Chan is everything he is today because he started at the bottom as a stuntman, had breakthroughs throughout the 70s and 80s and continued through the 90s. Much of his work became classics and are still watched today. Jet Li virtually became synonymous with Wong Fei Hung in the OUATIC series. He then carried on making some very watchable action, wuxia and Hollywood stuff all the way till the last decade. Even Donnie Yen's career spans decades. He is known for Ip Man now but there are youtube clips of him going all the way back to the late 80s. They are being uploaded now. They are being watched and discussed now! And of course Sammo Hung, who's actually the most underrated simply because he contributed the most! His IMDB page reveals some 40 years of continuous work for the genre as stuntman, choreographer, director, actor. Everyone of these guys has untold amount of screen fighting footage to look back on and for their fans to appreciate. A cursory search on youtube demonstrates this. They also have the scars and injuries to show for it. Now in comparison Tony Jaa's career is meagre to say the very least. Unless he increases his output, he will be a one-hit wonder, much like those in Hollywood, who got famous and then went on to do other things. Nothing wrong with that at all, but that is what he is.

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Hey maybe he'll have a late career peak like Donnie Yen with Ip Man or maybe he'll be like Jet Li where he made some awesome movies in his native country did some meh stuff in the US then went back and make some great stuff in his native country

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He's tired and depleted. Happens with constant wear and tear on the body. He's even resorted to using a stunt double in his Hollywood film debut Fast 7.

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Do you have a source for that?

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Sam Locc http://tinyurl.com/kwdrt4f has been confirmed as his double for Fast 7. The guy's a beast!

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