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LAPD releases video in police killing of 14-year-old girl in clothing store
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/27/los-angeles-police-burlington-killing-video

The Los Angeles police department has released body-camera footage and surveillance video of an incident in which an officer shot and killed a 14-year-old girl inside a department store while firing at another person.

People shot to death by U.S. police 2017-2022, by race
Published by Statista Research Department, Feb 1, 2022
Sadly, the trend of fatal police shootings in the United States seems to only be increasing, with a total 995 civilians having been shot, 117 of whom were Black, as of December 2021. In 2020, there were 1,021 fatal police shootings, and in 2019 there were 999 fatal shootings. Additionally, the rate of fatal police shootings among Black Americans was much higher than that for any other ethnicity, standing at 38 fatal shootings per million of the population as of January 2022.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

The police are more a danger to us than they are a benefit. It's time to defund and fire them all. There is no reforming tyrants.

Time to replace them with something else and start looking after our own people so people aren't compelled to commit crimes.

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You DO know that the US police are evolved from SLAVE PATROLS pre-US, don't you?

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Absolutely, they were highly engaged in capturing runaway slaves especially cretins like the Texas rangers.

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you mean there was no other reason to have law enforcement in the history of civilisation except to chase runaway slaves?
Seems unlikely .

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Bit of a false equivalency to say that (quote) "The rate of fatal police shootings among Black Americans was much higher than that for any other ethnicity" after already explaining that in the overall figures they only made up around 9-10% of either years toll. Basic math rules the day here. Yet these very same figures only serve to highlight, that black people aren't the majority to face (quote) "police Brutality" (despite their constant bleating to the contrary) so you felt the need to shoehorn in a story about a 14 year old girl....to beef up such a false equivalency (nice try)

And because 10% of anything isn't the 'whole' that the BLM would like you to think it is, you then further attempt to twist the figures by using percentages, adding (quote) "38 fatal shootings per million of the population"
Which only goes to prove (unequivocally) that the minority in question, commits the most crime (or are you just saying the police pulled weapons on people eating ice-cream in the park?)

Which brings me to the other factor....Why the police used lethal force in the first place?
Oddly enough, I couldfn't find any 'statistics' on your link, which cited figures of how many of these 'victims' were resisting arrest, fighting, endangering or were weaponised themselves (against the police) These (and other, convenient) omissions, only highlight what an disingenuous, agenda driven 'hit-piece' your link actually is.

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It's not a false equivalency at all. The proportion of black people that are killed by police per population (ie. the rate) is higher than the proportion of white people that are killed by police. In other words it is out of proportion to. This is a well know statistic and doesn't need explaining any further.

That said police killing black people isn't the problem. That's where you're getting lost. Police kill more white people. Police kill people of all races, thus police are the problem, not the victims.

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Nice deflection (but you're not fooling anyone here...including yourself)

I've already pointed out that you conveniently revert to percentages to bump up the actual numbers (to maintain the constant victimhood amongst the black community) However, when those very same percentages only serve to highlight the fact that black people (despite their actual minority) commit more crime than the actual white majority.....you'll either claim it as racism (or cite biased police) Thus proving you only like percentages when it suits your 'per capita' victimhood agenda.

A cursory glance at your post history indicates that you keep chanting the same 'fuck the police' schtick' wherever you go (and get your ass handed to you each and every time) When asked to give alternatives to a police force, that you'd like rid of (like most tooth-sucking malcontents) your silence is deafening. What's the matter, did those nasty police confiscate your weed?....or give you a parking ticket?....did it hurt your feelings?

I'm white and (by your own admission) at a much higher risk from being shot....yet i *still* have no problem with the police using deadly force (when necessary) primarily because I obey the law and comply with police (which in all likelihood, those aforementioned 'victims' didn't) But as previously stated, your link didn't want (nor care) to give proportionality to the percentages that were fighting/shooting back (odd that you've never addressed the issue, either?)
However your link *did* give links/subsections to articles about 'Police Brutality' (which goes against the grain of genuine impartial analytical statistic studies) but half-facts and distorted percentages seem to be your forte' (It would seem?) so I can see why you choose to cite this particular 'link'

Until you have anything of substance to add to your 'Police=Bad' bleating, kindly shut the fuck up. Looking at your posts and the replies from others, that would *statistically* be the general consensus around here (and we all know how much you like statistics and percentages, don't we?)

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Not deflecting anything.
You can point out false statements all you want, they won't change the facts. Again my OP was not about the black community. You're really fixated on that and that's where your racism comes out. You're missing track of the ball. AGAIN the Black community may be disproportionately negatively affected by the police but they ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES who are negatively affected. Again the police are a problem for everyone and the sooner you realize that the closer you'll come to becoming free.

"I'm white and (by your own admission) at a much higher risk from being shot"

I didn't "admit" this. This was my point. How long will that take to get through your thick skull? *rolls eyes*

" i *still* have no problem with the police using deadly force (when necessary) primarily because"
Why do you have no problem with this? Do you believe in fascism, military dictatorship where people are killed for their beliefs? Do you fantasize our return to a time like in 1930s Germany? The police are average citizens just like every average citizen and any government that affords themselves rights they don't afford their citizens is tyranny. Police have no more right to use deadly force than anyone else. There is nothing in our constitution that even guarantees them the right to even use force PERIOD and every American has the right to defend themselves from police and even make citizens arrests and report the police, even though disproportionately the big government sides with the police. I've experienced it myself when fighting traffic tickets when the city was clearly in the wrong for doing things like blocking signs with other signs. Police routinely break the traffic laws in their work cars. They aren't allowed to do that without the lights signalling they are on the way to something important, yet they do it. They are a menace to our society.

Sorry too long didn't read. No one has time for BS. And seriously, you need to STFU and since you believe in force. deserve a good swift smack on the back of the head. But it is unlikely to do anything to improve the clarity of your thinking.

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WOW you're an idiot!

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Blacks need to stop acting like savages. The police are not the problem. I think we should bring back segregation.

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The police shoot and kill two people, who are not black, and your response is that blacks need to stop acting like savages? Is there anything in this country that is not the fault of black people?

Be careful, your stupid racism is showing.

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I don’t give a fuck. I’m just looking at my city and who’s committing the crimes. These white assholes must’ve deserved it. Blue Lives Matter. Being called “racist” by a liberal fucktard like you, makes me think I’ve done something right.

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Not liberal, not a fucktard. You however, are an idiot.

Blaming black people for police killing people who are not black is one of the most stupid things I've read on this forum in a while.

The universe is going to own you if you don't get your head out of your butt.

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So you don't believe in freedom? That's what it means to be liberal. Period. Look the damn word up.

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Yes, I know how the word liberal is defined. I also know lots of people have their own definition for liberal. By not labeling myself as anything I can avoid some backlash. But not from you it seems.

I don't label myself as conservative either, for the same reason.

A definition of liberal from a dictionary;
"Favoring reform, open to new ideas, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; not bound by traditional thinking; broad-minded. synonym: broad-minded.Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism.Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States."

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Yeah, like antifa is the opposite of anti-fascist, BLM doesn't give a rip about black lives and 400 pound people nicknamed "Tiny" are actually not tiny. Duh!

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Police are definitely a problem. I never have any problems with blacks. I see dirty white rednecks acting like savages far more often than blacks. They are a big problem. So corrupt.

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Police are definitely a problem

No. Certain police officers are a problem. An entire institution can't be as it doesn't work without people.

I never have any problems with blacks. I see dirty white rednecks acting like savages far more often than blacks

Well that ends any arguement or discussion you may have. You are for one reason or another completely bias and bat shit crazy. What colour skin commits the most violent crimes in America. I'll give you a hint they are not white. Might be hard to believe but that is an undeniable fact. You like using stats so go look it up. 13% of the population commit more than 50% of all violent crimes. But yeh the white man is at fault for it. You are completely looney tunes.

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Whites are the problem, especially white males.

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Just racist whites and police.

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Yes because a crime free-for-all would be so much better.

Problem is this comes from a false presumption. The police aren't there to save us from the criminals. They're there to save the criminals from US. We can always go back to shooting them.

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It is a crime free for all by the violence class like the police and the corrupt politicians like those bought off by the fossil fuel industry. You are one of those so confused you literally contradict yourself in the same post.

"The police aren't there to save us from the criminals."
"Yes because a crime free-for-all would be so much better. "

So if the police aren't there to protect us from criminals as pro police believe then how would it be a crime free for all if they were defunded?

"They're there to save the criminals from US."

You need serious psychiatric help.

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Did your parents have any children that lived???

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You need serious psychiatric help.

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You want to fire all police and you think I'm the one that needs help???

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You think police are there to save criminals and then say I am the one who wants to fire police. You need serious serious psychiatric help.

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Yes, the police are there to serve and protect (including criminals)
Otherwise mob rule would (and used to) take care of the criminal element (irregardless of their skin colour) Hence the right to bear arms in America....to defend from foreign and *domestic* threat.

Take away the police force (and give no viable replacement) and you'll soon see who has all the guns in America. It won't be pretty and the 'criminal element' will not come out on top, trust me.

What CaigC is saying isn't tough-talk (nor a threat) but likely the only option if you remove the police force.

Odd that there's never any statistics indicating how many lives the police save, year-in, year-out.....but I suppose that doesn't fit the false narrative associated with anti-police rhetoric ?

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"who has all the guns in America. It won't be pretty and the 'criminal element' will not come out on top, trust me."

Isn't the criminal element the ones that have the guns in America though? The gun lobby is always reminding us of this.

The idea of removing the police force isn't just to remove them but replace them with something else. Something more like what other countries have.

Because police don't save many lives. If anything they reduce the time it takes for people to get help. Ask a firefighter these questions and ask them what they think of the police. They see it first hand every day. The narrative certainly isn't false even if it sounds fun to you to use that phrase in conjunction. The police are most definitely more of a problem than they are a benefit.
Let me ask you this. Do you pay property taxes? If you don't, you don't have much right to say it because if you saw the amount of how much your property taxes goes to the police you might have a second opinion. You might start questioning if there is another way.

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It's time to defund and fire them all.

Please note , this man does not represent The Left , the Democrats , or even BLM

He is clearly a total fruitloop (or a troll obvs)

Nobody seriously thinks "defund and fire them all" is a thing
Its like flat earthers , just in it for the lulz and the attention seeking .
which has clearly worked here .

or am i wrong Mr RealInfinitum (127) ?
127 post new account obvious fucking sock troll account created to stir shit






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Please note moviechatterer does not represent the views of most Americans.

He is clearly a total fruitcake (or a troll obviously).

Everyone seriously thinks defund and fire them all is a thing.

Again refer to the main article by the former POLICE OFFICER who had a movie made out of his experiences with brutally corrupt police. If most people didn't believe that the police were a problem, most people wouldn't agree with the article, yet they do.

Frank Serpico The Police Are Still Out of Control
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/10/the-police-are-still-out-of-control-112160/

It's like flat Earthers deny the Earth is round, the same ignorant people deny that police are a problem. They are just in it for the attention seeking and do not not desire any improvement to society like the majority of Americans who know police are a problem but who are too afraid of them themselves to speak out against them. They terrorize all Americans.

Clearly you're nothing but a fucking sock puppet to troll anyone that provides you facts that contradict your current misconception of reality. A true keyboard warrior, he just writes from the position of someone who has zero personal experience in anything and from my speculation is most likely a millennial who doesn't have a passport and has never left the country, let alone ventured very far from the town he was born. I'm also going to guess like most of you who support the police, you don't pay property taxes. If you did your outlook might be a bit different.

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My car is sometimes a problem . I dont scrap it , I fix it.

Analogy explanation for idiots:
Because i cant do without a car , just as we cant do without the police

To go around yelling "DEFUND THE POLICE" ,which basically means get rid of them, is fucking moronic
It delivers totally the wrong message
By all means fix the police.
I'm totally against police corruption , brutality , and any other unethical behavior
We all are.

the same ignorant people deny that police are a problem.

No ones denying theres a problem moron.
Dont make it sound like your solution to bad police officers is to "Throw away the whole concept of law and order"
Thats just stupid.


You did sound a little bit less crazy than a batshit nuts extremist at one point when you said:
The idea of removing the police force isn't just to remove them but replace them with something else. Something more like what other countries have.

What other countries have is "THE POLICE"

Unfortunately we will be unable to discuss the subtleties because the closest you can come to articulating your issue is "DEFUND THE POLICE!!!"
Which , even as a starting point makes zero sense.


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>The police are more a danger to us than they are a benefit. It's time to defund and fire them all. There is no reforming tyrants.

That would lead to more people like Kyle Rittenhouse on the streets, which is a good thing.

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I think it would lead to more people like those heroes that tried to stop Kyle Rittenhouse. With their being armed they would have riddled the little traitor and saved the lives of many people which is a good thing.

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Kyle shot a paedophile and a skateboard dolt with a long criminal history of violence against his own family
>I think it would lead to more people like those heroes that tried to stop Kyle Rittenhouse.

Read what you just posted very slowly and very carefully.

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And despite all that, that night they chose to act as heroes and stop the maniac killer with a gun, who had left his home with a loaded weapon and driven miles with the specific intention of murdering people.

No doubt you support the active shooters in schools across America because some of the victims that were shot may have looked at porn. You are a truly sick individual.

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Delete your account. Your are lost and beyond help.

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^^^ Totally. This guy is beyond clueless.

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I support the police and I'm glad they took out that criminal but it's unfortunate that the girl was caught in the crossfire. The criminal was assaulting a lady when he was shot and he should have been serving his two year prison sentence for an arrest back in August 2020. The police were told that there was an active shooter so they may have been justified to go in with their guns ready. I remember a knowledgeable gun owner said that the rifle should not have been used in close quarters since the rounds are more powerful and would penetrate walls. I think it would have been better to go in with batons if they could see that he was armed with his bike lock but hindsight is 20/20. A social worker would not have had success dealing with this criminal who had prior gun charges and domestic violence.

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2021/12/25/daniel-elena-lopez-24-year-old-assault-suspect-killed-thursday-by-lapd-in-north-hollywood-had-extensive-criminal-history/

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