im glad he´s dead
guy was a scum
shareI wasn't going to chime in, but what the hell.
I'm a black American, and I hate Derek Chauvin. This AH acted *exactly* like the stereotype that BLM and Antifa paint all cops as. Floyd was face down and handcuffed with a knee in his back. Anything that happened before that is immaterial. At the point where Floyd was cuffed, face down, and struggling for air, Chauvin stopped being a professional police officer and became a tormentor who fit the description of what the "defund the police" crowd describe them as. Thanks Derek.
That being out of the way, I also want to say that I hate George Floyd and don't mourn his lazy sorry ass one bit. He acted *exactly* like the stereotype that a lot of white Americans believe about us - that all black people are simply incapable of obeying simple commands from authority. Thanks George.
I'm not glad he's dead though. His death only drove a wedge into the racial divide that was mostly healed but is being opened by the radical left and turned him into a martyr.
afaik, obama ripped that divide wide open.
but yeah, the cop was a sucker too.
floyd died of the drug abuse though
maybe it was all planned all along. i dont want to delve that route tho
I agree about Obama. I voted for him the first time he ran, and I don't think it was a couple of months into his presidency when he defended his friend at Cambridge who falsely accused local cops of racism. If I have to put a watermark on a single incident that jumpstarted the recent race wars, that's the one that keeps popping up in my head.
Floyd may have well died from drug abuse, but it doesn't matter, does it? The videos of Chauvin kneeling on a man who was handcuffed face down on the ground gasping for breath and pleading for his life for a full nine minutes makes the point moot, and besides, no doctor would eliminate that nine minutes of torture as a contributing factor, even if the drug use was a significant factor in his death. Chauvin gave the leftist radicals exactly what they needed. I hope Chauvin is doing the soapy shower shuffle right now.
as i said, im not defending the cops behaviour.
but im not a cop myself and have no experience in such situations.
in a parallel world he might have gotten stabbed by the "victim" when he showed mercy/weakness
How was Floyd going to stab anyone with his hands cuffed behind his back?
I think you are defending Chauvin's behavior when you say that kind of crap. Weakness was Chauvin starring in his own snuff video for nine minutes instead of tossing Floyd into a vehicle and driving him to jail.
floyd died of the drug abuse though
bull...shit
I'm sure the scumbag had large amount of whatever "fantynal?" in his system ,
but the odds that that is what killed him VS being choked for nine minutes are pretty remote.
That's like choking him to death and saying " ah well , he was a smoker see? , bound to die of a respiratory problem ,
it wuz the cigarettes what done it "
a healthy person certainly survives some rough handling. you might pass out, but dont die
shareGeorge was more than just someone who didn't obey commands from authority.
He was the type of people who made my grandmother feel unsafe, even at home.
Convicted of aggravated home invasion where he held a woman at gunpoint.
I have zero sympathies for this sort of scum.
I've lived in extreme poverty which I'm sure George never got to experience in a first world country like the US, but I never considered doing something as scummy as invading someone else's home with a gun.
George Floyd was an utter failure and the saddest part in all this is that he was able to terrorize society for so long and reproduce.
Beautifully said 😊💗
shareBullshit. That's what happens when you resist arrest. If he hadn't resisted arrest, he'd still be alive. Or at least his poor judgment wouldn't have gotten him killed on that day.
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Yes, he most likely would be still alive, but that doesn't in any way absolve a cop who had a man handcuffed and submissive but continued to keep his knee on his neck for no other reason than to be an asshole. What happened before Floyd was subdued is totally immaterial.
If Chauvin wasn't an asshole and Floyd died of an OD on the way to the station, no one would care - it would have been clearly Floyd's choice and not Chauvin's choice. But those videos of Floyd begging for his life can't be ignored.
Immaterial? You don't think a 6'5" ex football player who doesn't allow himself to be put into a police car should be treated differently than someone who instantly complied? You're obviously not a cop.
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Not many police personnel would agree with you. Indeed, many police commissioners around the country have been vocal in saying Chauvin was wholly unprofessional.
No police procedure in the country allows a person who is face down, handcuffed, and fighting to breathe to be summarily executed, which is pretty much what happened here because (according to you) he was resisting arrest before he was submissive.
That's not what happened and what Chauvin did with the knee on the shoulder was standard procedure in many places.
You're obviously not a police officer. What a couple episodes of ANY police show and listen to all the bullshit excuses that come out of perps when they're handcuffed. You're twisting the facts to fit your narrative.
The restraint position that the cops used was taught in training and it was in the manual per the link below. Page 26 in the link shows the restraint position in the police manual. The only question is whether Floyd should have been moved into the recovery position and that's a judgment call. The youtube video shows that Floyd couldn't breathe at the 7:50 mark and he was freaking out at the 7:30 mark when they were trying to get him to stay in the vehicle. I don't think Chauvin should have been convicted of killing Floyd since Floyd was already struggling to breathe while in the vehicle.
For the record, I am not glad Floyd is dead.
https://mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/27-CR-20-12951-TKL/Exhibit67807072020.pdf
https://youtu.be/YPSwqp5fdIw *** Floyd cannot breathe at 7:50 mark of video before restraint ***
I agree with firing Chauvin for his actions, but do not agree with the jury's verdict. The trial record demonstrated ample reasonable doubt.
shareI could see some sort of disciplinary action or dismissal if Chauvin violated the police procedures BUT Floyd is screaming at the 8:20 mark about not being able to breathe AND the ambulance was called. I think they had to restrain Floyd since he was out of control. I was arguing a couple months ago that Floyd would have rolled into traffic if he regained consciousness so it might have made sense to keep him restrained until the ambulance arrived. Floyd wriggled his way out of the vehicle and onto the ground instead of staying in the vehicle.
shareyeah and hes missing out on the free crack pipe give-away, too bad
shareChauvin should have just tossed him in the cop car so Floyd could have gone to jail. Instead the Minneapolis police department decided to give Floyd second billing in the snuff video Chauvin was starring in.
shareGuy was A Martyr and showed why certain police officers shouldnt be police officers Derek Chauvin and your monster and racist for being glad he is dead
shareTake a number. I’m looking around my city and seeing how the animals are acting. Fuck George Floyd and those like him!
shareI'm not glad he's dead. I think every life has value even those that have criminal records. Yes, even Floyd's life had value. Sure, he committed some very bad crimes throughout his lifetime but who knows, maybe he could have turned things around eventually.
That being said, I do think it's a damn shame how the media handles these cases in such an erroneous way. It's trial by media for the most part. This is the reason why people believed Trump when he called the media "the enemy of the people". It's because of crap like this that results in riots, looting and killings against innocent people.
Thanks to their false narratives of "racist police", half of the black Americans in this country think the cops are out to get'em. It's really sad to see this happen to a country that embraces different races, ethnic backgrounds, religions etc..etc..
The fact is, the US is one of the least racist nations on the planet.
The media has got to stop doing this. I don't see how anything can change until we see the change start in the way the news is presented in high profile cases. It's almost as if they want riots just for the ratings. So unfortunate....