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Questioning catalizing events is now a crime

posted 2 years ago by OvertonPendulum (4026)
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When some important event like a school shooting happens, nobody will dare publicly question the event because some idiots might call the families of the victims and harass them leading to that person having to pay 50 million dollars. This is not good for society. The ability to question events such as this necessary for social health. This verdict is a dangerous precedent. The victim's families should have sued the actual people harassing them, not the guy who questioned the event online. But they knew that the losers who actually harassed them didn't have any money, so they sued Jones who has money. Greed got the better of them. If you ask me shame on the families, their lawyers and the judge who handed this verdict.

[–] Martoto (5048) 2 years ago

No falsely accusing victims of being part of a hoax is a crime. If Jones hadn't done what he did, then the victims that you think should be ashamed for seeking justice, would not gave been subject to Jones's followers actions.

If all that happened to the families was that they suffered reputational damage and financial loss because of Jones actions, then they would still have a case against him. But you're saying they should be ashamed of sueing him after receiving actual threats from the people that Jones stirred up. It just shows you have no understanding of the law or of basic decency.

[–] OvertonPendulum (4026) 2 years ago

Nope claiming that something is a conspiracy is not a crime. If he is wrong, debunk him. If someone is harassing you, sue them. Being able to question things (even if you're wrong) is crucial for social wellbeing.

The so called victim's families are conspiracy enablers. Because of them, powerful people will more likely to engage in actual conspiracies. They are literally holding society back. They are scum.

[–] moviefanatic505 (6138) 2 years ago

Mind your tongue. Any violation of the rules from this point on will get you reported.

[–] OvertonPendulum (4026) 2 years ago

Crybaby.

[–] RangerJonesy (38) 2 years ago

mind you threatening someone gonna get your account canceled, moviefanatic505.

[–] moviefanatic505 (6138) 2 years ago

I only report people who break the rules of moviechat.

[–] Martoto (5048) 2 years ago

Making a false claim that you know to be untrue is a crime. Inventing a conspiracy in order to convince others of it is a crime when there is no evidence to back up that you truly and innocently believed it.

Rather than perjure himself Jones admitted to knowing that his claims were false. So that blows your free speech argument. Creating lies in order to damage or incite others to do damage is not protected speech. Jones conspired to get people to harass the victims families because the reality of the tragedy they experienced undermines his political and commercial interests.

Your argument that the victims families has no right to prosecute Jones, for a crime which he has admitted but which you seem to keep ignoring, because you believe that committers of real conspiracies will go unpunished is as absurd and nonsensical as you are obviously a massive shitlicker for every right wing asshole that you encounter.

Why don't you go and live in a country where people like the victims families have no rights to prosecute people who conspire to do them harm or incite others to do them harm. Plenty of places around the world have the kind of fundamentalist religious and military regimes that don't tolerate that kind of freedom.

[–] OvertonPendulum (4026) 2 years ago

That's not my argument you imbelice. Learn to read. I have made it very clear in my original post.

Jones conspired to get people to harass the victims families because the reality of the tragedy they experienced undermines his political and commercial interests.

What? He conspired to harass people? Are you really that stupid, moron??

[–] Martoto (5048) 2 years ago

He must have anticipated the outcome of falsely riling up people to perceive the parents of dead children to be part of an elaborate hoax. (In fact the evidence of his business dealings and the deposition confirmed that he was counting on it.) It's enough to make servile bootlickers like you angry that the families for receiving justice after Jones admitted he was in the wrong.

Why don't you try what Jones attempted to do an claim that "a form of psychosis" causes you to cling on to this fantasy? You might get people to agree to that.

[–] OvertonPendulum (4026) 2 years ago

Again you have completely ignored my main point. Because you don't have any comeback.

[–] OvertonPendulum (4026) 2 years ago

Go fuck a hedgehog you leftist moron.

[–] OvertonPendulum (4026) 2 years ago

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[–] moviechatterer (15779) 2 years ago

wow , how many times has this conversation gone round in circles in 7 days?

so.....
Isn't it libel/slander if nothing else?
(one is written one is verbal, cant remember which, he's probly done both)

If he is wrong, debunk him.
If this is libel and/or slander The burden of proof is on him

[–] OvertonPendulum (4026) 2 years ago

"If he is wrong, debunk him.
If this is libel and/or slander The burden of proof is on him"

And if he hasn't fulfilled that burden, then he will look like a fool and people won't believe him. No need to sue anyone.

[–] moviechatterer (15779) 2 years ago

No, the reason libel is a thing is that when people run around spouting bullshit about other people , idiots believe them without them having to prove it.

(Like in this case - there's at least 2 posters on this thread who have been fooled by AJs *clearly* untrue claim that the shooting never happened
(it blows my mind that there are people that dumb but there you go) )

[–] OvertonPendulum (4026) 2 years ago

OK so nobody should question important events.

[–] moviechatterer (15779) 2 years ago

Nobody should blindly spit out clearly untrue offensive bullshit about traumatic events and the victims thereof.

Did my previous post not mean anything to you?
nothing got through ?
about libel and such?

Let me me give you another example:
Lets say on jan 6th Donald Trump reports he is "co-ordinating the law enforcement and helping bring the disturbamnce to a close from the safty of his bunker "

Then someone else , eg Alex Jones , says on his TV show:
"Hey dont believe that you sheeple , I've got the real story what donald was actually doing at that time was hiding in his bunker with his trousers down jerking off to a picture of shirtless Putin".

Do you think that would be:
a) a healthy questioning of the reported events
b) some libellous horseshit that would have him in court pretty quick facing trumps lawyers.

(its not actually such a great example as the bullshit is less obviuosly untrue than the real case.)

[–] OvertonPendulum (4026) 2 years ago

I don't feel like debating another moron like you. So go fuck yourself.

People who sued Alex Jones are human garbage and so are you. I am glad their children died and I wish nothing but pain to them.

[–] SamNoyoun (5881) 2 years ago

Oh gee, mc's biggest racist is a fan of ol' Alex, what a surprise! 🙄

In other news, water is wet and the sky is blue...

[–] OvertonPendulum (4026) 2 years ago

I'm not a fan of Alex Jones, just a fan of free speech. My views on race are more rational and moral than society's and I am willing to challenge anyone to a debate on this subject.

[–] moviechatterer (15779) 2 years ago

free speech really doesn't mean what you think it does retard

[–] OvertonPendulum (4026) 2 years ago

Yeah it does, moron.

[–] RangerJonesy (38) 2 years ago

you shut your moth clown.

[–] SamNoyoun (5881) 2 years ago

Aw, thanks, a moth clown is the cutest thing ever!

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[–] RangerJonesy (38) 2 years ago

its a political hitjob, look how now they are raiding Trumps house, this is the democratic party working to stop their opponents, simple as that, they are very organized.

[–] Bubbathegut (18094) 2 years ago

Welcome to Dementia Joes new america. We are only allowed to believe what democrats tell us.