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Maybe we American's should look at ourselves in the mirror?


Yes, Trump is a overweight/obese blowhard..Hillary barely could walk up and down even a step or two..isn't this how most of us American's are nowadays? Loud, heavy, angry people with nothing better to do but blame one person for all of this country's failings?

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Define "most of us".

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75+% Obese/Overweight

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Obama was just as bad though. He blamed others a lot and he was also a blowhard. Obama mocked mentally ill people as well.

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Links?

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Obama called people without health insurance "free riders" and blamed them for high prices. Why does universal coverage seem more like a liability than an act of compassion?

He also blamed us for the financial crash.

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Maybe you just imagined all those things because you're dumb.

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trolololol.

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To be fair, he did blame the GOP for obstruction since they did put a halt on a lot of the policies he wanted to pass. The reverse is just happening right now with Trump. Goes back and forth with whichever political party is in presidential power. Why a lot of things can't get done and why congress does mostly nothing hence its very low approval rating.

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No a lot of things don't get done because there's no incentive to reach across the aisle. That's because congress works for their donors first instead of the people. Donors don't want congress to do what the majority of Americans want because it's not in their financial best interests.

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He had majority of both houses 09-11 so thank goodness he still was unable to achieve anything

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A few of Obama's accomplishments while president:

ACA, the Paris Agreement, the economic recovery from the housing crisis and stock market crash, the Iran nuclear deal, found and killed Osama Bin Laden, ended U.S. warfare in Afghanistand and Iraq, saved the auto industry, protected Dreamers from deportation, instituted net neutrality, boosted fuel efficiency standards, reformed college student loans, reformed consumer credit loans protection, cut veteran homelessness in half, cut the deficit, expanded overtime pay...

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Lol... I wouldn't call most of them accomplishments per se. Lot of them have already been backpedaled under the Trump administration.

-ACA = Too costly or soon to be (GOP doesn't want to fix it/wants repeal & replace)
-Paris Agreement = Only a very small handful of countries met their designated goals of reduction (Recent meetings were to accelerate the process after the climate report warning)
-Iran Nuke Deal = Dead
-Osama Bin Ladin = Technically didn't find him. Was just around long enough in his tenure for the military assets to finally locate him and request a hit which I believe any president would go for.
-War on terror = Pulled troops, gave rise to resurgence of Taliban and formation of ISIS/ISIL/Daesh, are now back there indefinitely with a larger presence than planned.
-Auto industry = No brainer choice but to bail them out. Could've let them fail but then things would be worse off.
-DACA = Unconstitutional but yes, it stands for the time being.
-Loan protections = Rolled back

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*ACA - Republican voters love Obamacare, therefore it's here to stay. Republican politicians complained for years but have zip ideas for a replacement.

*Paris Agreement is technically still in effect. By the time it's not, we'll have a new president who will reinstate it. States and cities are still following it.

*Osama Bin Laden - Nevertheless, unlike Bush, Obama found him and gave the order. Not as easy as you believe since American casualties have to be considered. A previous administration knew his location and avoided taking any action.

*War on terror - You mean what Trump wants to do now in Syria because he's proRussian and antiAmerican? LOL. I guess that's what caused Mattis to resign today.

*Auto industry - Obama received plenty of criticism from Republicans for saving jobs so it's obvious they would've stupidly allowed the entire industry to collapse causing a ripple effect throughout the economy leading to a recession.

*DACA - Republicans hate the Constitution. Their leader attacks freedom of the press, freedom of religion, freedom of speech and expression.

*Loan protections - You mean stupidly rolled back. Help the banks. Screw the consumer. And you're supporting this why?

Next president will undo Trump's nonsense.

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Loan protections are what caused the collapse, by enabling banks to behave badly and have their losses socialized. Dodd Frank even mandates bailouts.

Calling Obamacare the ACA is like calling the Iraq War "Opperation Iraqi Freedom". It was a massive gift to the medical industry. Insurance industry consolidated and the big insurance stocks went up 10,000%.

What you liked about Obama is that he started more wars than George Bush, spent more money than all other presidents combined on debt, and bailed out failed international banks. Oh, and he said he liked gay marriage too, eventually.

You prove this when you choose to ignore the big bad stuff to focus on the small good stuff. Yes Obama was black. So you didn't expect much. Or you work for Big Pharma?

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You're confusing credit card loans with mortgage loans. Two different things.

Deregulation allowed banks to package and sell mortgages to investors which was previously illegal. The banks didn't care if people could repay since they were selling them so many people had subprime mortgages using ARMs. When interest rates increased, so did monthly mortgage payments making them unaffordable.

One deregulation allows your financial advisor to give you bad information since he/she can now place their own institution's financial interest above yours. Why would you want to lose money based on bad advice?

ACA allows people with preexisting medical conditions to obtain insurance and allows children to remain on their parents insurance until they're 26. ACA works well in blue states. Red states don't want their voters to have healthcare.

"What you liked about Obama is..."
That's your assumption. I never said I liked him. I'm just pointing out his accomplishments. I thought he was too status quo. But, he was still better than that moron in the White House now. Even Bush was.

"...combined on debt, and bailed out failed international banks..."
You're living under a rock. The global economy almost collapsed. Obama saved it. If Trump were president, your savings would've been wiped out through hyperinflation and you'd be migrating elsewhere.

"Yes Obama was black. So you didn't expect much...he liked gay marriage too."
You're projecting and you're a bigot. And homophobe.

BTW, Trump inherited a healthy economy from Obama. Trump has just destroyed the stock market, increased the deficit with his taxcut for the super rich and the recession is on its way. Nice going!

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This American woman moved to China and lost 20 pounds in a year. American food culture is terrible, junk junk junk.

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Lol, yeah, slave labor will definitely burn the calories.

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You must be a skinny guy.

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I mean, they are both old people. What do you expect from them.... cartwheels?

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When you make love
Do you look in the mirror?
Who do you think of
Does he look like me?

Do you tell lies?
And say that it's forever
Do you think twice
Or just touch and see

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