... are dirty old men going to hit on him? Seems more creepy than dirty old men hitting on her.
I don't think she thought this through. Must have been a shock when the wife told him "I'm not into boys".
He's still into women, but are women into him? He's too short and cute to pass for a man. Best he can do is steroids, gym and a beard. I'd like to hear his voice.
https://time.com/5947032/elliot-page/
Elliot Page was always a man, he was born with a male brain and had a male gender identity for his entire life. This wasn't a decision he just woke up and made one day, this is who he always has been. While partners may not be sexually attracted to him, is that really what you base all your relationships on? How 20th century. In the modern age we base relationships on mutual understanding and mutual affection, not on skin deep beauty and lust.
shareUh, no... Even in a modern age the vast, vast, VAST majority of people base a relationship first on the gender of the person. I'm guessing over 96% and that's low-balling.
My best friend may be a good-looking, charming fellow but I'm not looking to sleep with him. Why? He's not a woman and that's who I'm attracted to.
Lesbians aren't attracted to men. Hence they will not be looking for a man to be a partner with.
To think we've 'evolved' to this point because some people spend too much time on Twitter is absolutely naive and ludicrous.
Wow, you're backwards. You claim to have a best friend but you don't believe yourself to be in a relationship with him? How sad for you for the only intimacy you to have in your life is the sex you have between you and the girls you pick up in the bar.
Relationships aren't about sex, they're about intimacy, about opening yourself up to another, revealing deeply personal details. This isn't a matter of evolution, it's a matter of civilization, now if you want to act like the chimpanzees and live in a zoo you're more than welcome to... but in the modern age we've progressed past the whole "women exist purely for sex" deal.
You really think everything is lumped into one general relationship? You mentioned in your earlier post about a 'partner' so I was referring to that. Clearly, the original poster was messing around yet still talking about sexual partners. For you to get triggered and swing to broad relationships was silly - what does that have to do with sex, which was his position?
'Women exist purely for sex' hasn't been a thing in, well, centuries. Dang, you're really out there and must be one of those young feminists who don't know a thing about the real world.
You can have a romantic relationship without sex. My entire point is that you're obsessed with sex and seem to think that the only reason people get married is so they can have more sex. Sex and Romance are two very different things. Intimacy and Sex are two very different things. His wife fell in love with him despite having a male mind, it is his mind she loves not his genitals.
share1) You think you can have a romantic partner without sex. You realize it takes two to tango? I don't know any relationship, and I guarantee I've been on this planet for eons more than you, that was not built first on mutual attraction.
2) You don't know me and nowhere in my posts did it indicate I am obsessed with sex. Way to deflect from the point of my post.
3)If Page's wife was in love with a man, why are they getting divorced now that Page is coming out as a man? Could it be because Portner is a lesbian? You write "she loves not his genitals" and that's correct. She loved her female body parts.
I see what you're trying to say - you don't fall in love with a penis or a vagina - you fall in love with what's inside. However, you first have to have attraction. The natural instinct is to be intimate with who you are attracted to. Portner wouldn't cuddle with a straight male anymore than I would cuddle with a straight male. I might find an elderly lady to be a fascinating mind, but I'm not going be whatever your definition of 'intimate' is with her.
1) It happens all the time.
2) You ARE obsessed with sex, you're denying this because it makes your argument fail to admit people can fall in love without sex. That people can be attracted without sex... that the world doesn't revolve around sex.
Your entire argument is "I am a pervert, therefore everyone else is a pervert" and are ignoring the millions of asexuals on this planet. Plenty of people only want a romantic relationship without sex being involved, YOU don't because YOU are a PERVERT.
Dude, seriously, you have massive insecurities and serious social issues. It's fantastic!
I'm now a pervert? And earlier I only use women for sex? I'd hate to tell my daughter, sisters, mother, and boss these things. They will be bummed to hear it. I'm actually a typical male, so are all males perverts now? If Page has a 'male' mind now, is Page a pervert? Does he pee standing up or sitting down?
Come to think of it... What exactly is your definition of a pervert? Someone who isn't asexual?
Either way, I'm enjoying this breakdown, as well as your arguments with others on this thread. You really think you're winning these debates. It's adorable.
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It seems you ran out of medication...
shareThat's the best you can do? Jeez, I had high hopes.
I guarantee 99% of men think just like me, and the 1% that don't are what you define as "men" and the rest of us define as whatever the heck Page defines herself as now.
Good luck in the real world, and not in that little bubble you're managing to exist in.
Ellen Page will never be a man. No matter what she does to her body.
sharehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience_of_sex_differences
The fact is that he has a male brain, it can be objectively measured and determined to be male. If his brain is male, then he is male because we are our brains, not our bodies.
The fact is that he has a male brain, it can be objectively measured and determined to be male.
Is is not only not possible to measure it, it is premature to even say there is such a thing as a "male" or "female" brain. We are not anywhere close to mapping the whole brain, have just barely started scratching the surface. You can't diagnose gender dysphoria or any other mental disorder with a brain scan.
shareThe only true objective measure is the ages old tried and true “penis” or “vagina” test. There, solved all your problems.
I’m done with this. Everyone living on fantasy island struggling with everything they have to know what a female is and a male is can stay there.
Like I said, believe whatever you want, but to me, this is a mental illness, with people using people who have this mental illness for votes and political gain.
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-34290981
Try your penis / vagina test again! Born with a penis that falls off and becomes a vagina.
Incredibly rare medical exceptions don't change the rule. If you're born a man you'll die a man. If you're born a woman you'll die a woman. No matter how you mutilate your body along the way. I'm so fucking sick of this insane world.
sharehttps://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/hbm.24462
See how facts make you look like an idiot? It can be objectively measured and it has been objectively measured.
The fact is that he has a male brain, it can be objectively measured and determined to be male. If his brain is male, then he is male because we are our brains, not our bodies.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180524112351.htm
Keep lying to yourself. I bet you still use smoke signals because iphones and the internet are scary. Science has evolved dummy.
Elliot Page was always a man, he was born with a male brain and had a male gender identity for his entire life.
You don't know your developmental psychology, do you? Babies don't have a sense of self until much later in their development. The classic psychology test being that of placing a baby in front of a mirror and the baby believing its reflection is actually that of another baby.
It takes a while for self-identity to manifest completely, but it doesn't change that these children were born who they are. Just like homosexuality is innate, gender is also innate.
"Just like homosexuality is innate, gender is also innate"
I thought gender was a "social construct"?
Where'd you get that nonsense from, a TERF? There is Sex and there is Gender, they need not be the same but they exist none the less.
shareEver heard of females who wish to be a boy because daddy always wanted one? And as EP doesn't have any siblings...
shareBull. No one is born with the knowledge of sex stereotypes (which is all that gender is.) While the 21st century has brought many fine achievements for the LGB community, it has also created bigots like you who insist that lesbians need have sex with men who identify as women. Here is a hint, Lesbians are not attracted to people of the opposite sex, and if you sew on a penis and expect your wife to be okay with that don't be so astonished when she leaves you.
shareShut it TERF. https://health.clevelandclinic.org/research-on-the-transgender-brain-what-you-should-know/
shareThe only people who say "TERF" are deranged SJWs.
shareShe was born a woman and still is.
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You know, that sounds woke enough to actually happen!
share"Boy"??? Page is 34!!!!
Who sad to say, is never going to be able to pass as an adult male.
Maybe with a lot of facial hair? Thinking of Haley Joel Osment...
shareEven with facial hair and hormone-assisted muscle mass, you're still going to have a tiny human that's about 5' tall with a delicate little frame. As a male, he's going to be the size of a 10 year old, but approaching middle age.
I think the effect is going to be rather... gnome-like.
Yes, but at least a male gnome... 🙂
share"He's too short and cute to pass for a man."
And here we get the actual problem and reason why transgenders exist. Because people like you insist that people need to "pass for a man." Ellen was likely getting all kinds of harassment for her butch-lesbian gig in the first place, transitioning to Elliot likely got her less harassment as a whole. All of the "you need to look like a man cause we manly men hate men who look cute" is the exact reason you have Male to Female transgenders.
Don't these transgender people have high suicide rates? It's like what they're trying didn't work, so then they "come out" as "trans-alive" hahahaha
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