Not a nice man?


I know in his movies he's the old grandpa that pokes fun at himself, but from what I gather he was not a nice person with his colleagues and family members during his life, wronging many of them in various occasions. I don't know if he ever owned that during his life.
I mean, was he a dick or not?

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RIP Stan. But I always thought he looked like a total prick. I'm sure he was nice to people he liked. Like anybody. But he looked like a seriously shrewd businessman. I don't think he took shit and was used to getting his way.

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He was, yes. And a circumcised one for that matter.

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I didn't know that, thanks for the tip. Did you check personally?

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He was Jewish. That answers your question.

(Beavis Voice) He said “tip” and “circumcision!” What’s next? “Bris” and “moil”? BWAA-HA-HA-HAHAHA!

I’ve long thought the guy was a self-promoting, opportunistic mediocrity who was admittedly lazy. He went on record that he made the X-Men mutants so he wouldn’t have to concoct an origins story for their powers. Want to be popular? Be mediocre. It works for retail, fast food and politics.

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Funny you say that as X-Men wasn't as successful as some ofthe other comics durring his time of writing the original comics. I can't get into his X-Men run. The X-Men are all immature teenagers who go on about how hot the new girl Jean Grey is and all the people they save like them.

He created Magneto to be a wholey evil villain who wants to kill all humans and then kill any mutants that oppose him. He also didn't do the backstory of Magneto.

I admit I am biased as I grew up on the 90s cartoon and most of the team in that show didn't exist til the mid 70s.

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Stan Lee did make important contributions to the comic characters that have seeped into popular culture. A fair assessment of his role would acknowledge the important part he played. That said, the Lion's share of the real creative work was done by Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko. Marvel took off in the '60s when Lee was editor-in-chief, and their iconic characters were created. Problem was Marvel's system was that the artists basically drew and wrote the overall story, but a writer would come in and fill in the dialogue balloons, and then get sole writing credit. Oftentimes Lee was that writer in those days. He did deserve credit for what he did, and for the editing and marketing, which certainly were important. But the Marvel method, which Lee upheld, really did screw the artists, who were the primary creative talent, out of their fair share of the credit. Both Kirby and Ditko eventually quit Marvel because of this. Kirby, when he went over to DC and wrote for the Mr. Miracle comic, even created a villain named Funky Flashman, who was a caricature of Lee (complete with a sycophantic sidekick named Houseroy, based on Stan Lee's protege and successor, Roy Thomas), and who was always attempting to cheaply exploit Mr. Miracle.

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"Important" (LOL)

They're just fucking comic books, disposable fodder with no value except to titillate teenage boys for five minutes. Get real!

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I am real moron. Disney and Marvel studios have made hundreds of millions of dollars with this intellectual property you dismiss as having no value. Maybe it's not to your liking. Fine. Everyone's entitled to his own opinions and his own tastes. What you don't get to do, however, is dictate what other people find valuable.

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Well, sounds like he could have admitted, at some point, that other artists were as important as himself.
Giving them both credit and money.He preferred the low road. What a loser.

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Well, the problem, as I understand it, was that Lee was a company man -- as in, his loyalty was to his boss, not his employees. He didn't own Marvel, he got hired by Martin Goodman, who was married to Lee's cousin. Goodman was probably the one behind the policy, and there doesn't appear to have been even a single time when Lee took the side of the artists against the management.

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I read he was pretty broke at the end of his life.. at the least he didn't seem to have any business sense.

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