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So a Pedophile gets celebrated?


He’s seen as this literary “genius” by establishment academia...yet he was a known pedo?

Goes to show who has a stranglehold on our institutions.

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Ginsberg was certainly drawn to young men, including willing teenaged boys, but that's not the same as being a pedophile.

And he's celebrated because he's one of the major poets & cultural forces of the American 20th Century.

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and I'll assume a liberal progressive too; imagine if he voted for a guy like Trump.

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What? He was instrumental in setting up NAMBLA! That was a pedo organization in the 1970’s.

I’ve read his works...they’re not anything special.

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but he's a lefty, so he's celebrated.

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Yep no surprise there

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He's celebrated because of his literary gifts. And he had as little use for the authoritarian governments of Communist countries as he did for consumerist countries of the West. His "leftism" was one of radical spiritual transformation, both individually & culturally.

And he got plenty of pushback & criticism from the liberal mainstream in the 1950s & early 1960s.

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didn't Pete Townshend threaten to beat him up onstage at Woodstock?

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If you don't care for his work, that's fair. There are acclaimed writers that don't do much for me, even though I can understand why they're acclaimed by others. It's all a matter of personal taste in the end.

He defended the right of NAMBLA to speak out as a matter of free speech. That's not to say that it didn't make me feel queasy, because it did, even in the sexually freewheeling 1970s. And now, even more so. But voicing an opinion is not the same as acting upon it. And as far as I know, his sexual relations with younger men were consensual. Not my preference, to be sure!

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Not in Morocco they weren’t

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If the "willing teenage boys" were underage, at the very least, he was a rapist.

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Sod off you bloody wanker!

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Can’t argue with facts can you? Too bad.

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