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Weight loss = lost mojo.....


Similar to Jonah Hill.

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Indeed

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no , when he became a big pothead

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He has always been a pothead..

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He didn't start regularly smoking until 2008, when he was 38.

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According to an interview I saw, he became a daily, wake and bake pothead while making Zak and Miri.

I'm not preaching that people shouldn't do it, but in his case I don't think its been good for him being in that state so much of the time.

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Yeah, I agree. Even putting the movies aside, I don't even seem to like him in interviews or podcasts as much as I used to since he began smoking so much.

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Yeah, the way he was in those public speaking shows he used to do is a total different guy than he is now. I always thought it would be cool to hang with Kevin and "shoot the shit" but not anymore. Weed did indeed change the guy.

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Jonah Hill was great in the Jump street movies/This is the End and he was skinny then!

I dont know what the heck happened to Smith, Hollyweird is an echo chamber for liberal bizarro world so maybe he went full libtard?

Another bizarre coincidence, my former best friend from years back was a huge kevin smith fan. He moved away, but when I recently reconnected with him, we argued about current events and my friend was full on liberal as well!!? It could be mere coincidence, maybe their wives drove them to both be libtards? Its another theory.

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In your friends case it probably is the wife's fault.

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I think so as well. It was a "facebook" argument (which im not wasting my time with ever again) and I wondered a few times if she was leaning over his shoulder telling him what to type xD

Do you think Smiths wife is to blame for his leap into further leftdom?

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With Smith it's hard to tell.. I just think everyone in Hollywood is told the future is woke so it's best for their career(money) if they follow their party line.

I mean, Kevin Smith was already a Beta male anyway so for him it wasn't much of a leap.

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If you're someone who is very into film, television, or celebrities, it can be difficult not to start buying into that more woke culture, I think (this applies both to the fans and the celebrities themselves, I believe). There's something called Communal Reinforcement that I, personally, think has a lot to do with this. It's...

"... a social phenomenon in which a concept or idea is repeatedly asserted in a community, regardless of whether sufficient empirical evidence has been presented to support it. Over time, the concept or idea is reinforced to become a strong belief in many people's minds, and may be regarded by the members of the community as fact. Often, the concept or idea may be further reinforced by publications in the mass media, books, or other means of communication. The phrase 'millions of people can't all be wrong' is indicative of the common tendency to accept a communally reinforced idea without question, which often aids in the widespread acceptance of factoids."


When the people you like, respect, look up to, think are cool, or smart, etc are all saying this same stuff, latching onto these same ideas, it's easy to just trust and go along with them. It's the same way religions go on being accepted, without question.

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Its unfortunate how this plays out. I think theres a lot of truth to that. The Echo Chamber of being in a tribe.

I spoke with a relative who has a masters degree in atmospheric physics, and he was happy and showed us this gift he had gotten. It was a book of the ice core data in Antarctica. He exclaimed "I have the facts to prove my arguments". Its interesting that if you were speaking to a person talking about the atmosphere and climate, if they had a MASTERS in that exact thing you'd think people who just accept what they had to say. But he wanted to have the data and proof to show them so they can decide for themselves. Not just accept what he had to say. (his argument goes against the standard held belief these days, in case you wondered)

Also speaking of the Bible, I noticed many people who argue about it didnt actually read it or they misremembered it. Pastors and Deacons and such claim to have this authority over whats in the bible, but you really need to read it yourself and not blindly follow someone with a uniform. I think this "communal reinforcement" has ties to our tribal nature. Because when we band together we are safer and get more done than by ourselves. So we have a tendency to find our "group" and then we have to deal with the systems and beliefs that the group has already established that ,may be wrong. Or we make our own group and splinter off continuously (which has happened already).

To summarize, People use their status to claim authority over a subject or situation and people follow that, even though their message should be "Heres my argument, here's how I prove it, check it out and test it and you decide". Also, it sure is harder to be a critical thinker. You have to research and decide for yourself, but many problems would be solved if more people applied critical, analytical thinking

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I wanted to add, I myself have gotten disheartened to find out people I admire are not what I thought they were. But I see you dont have to accept people as a whole. You can gain some wisdom, and good habits from those you admire. But also you can leave the idiocy, and bad habits at the door.

Nobodies perfect, only need to emulate the things that will improve your life and help you find joy in life.

I can still watch some Kevin Smith films, but his beliefs I'll leave with him.

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That's a really good mindset to have. Although it's difficult to live with, I find.

I notice a lot of people (going with the tribe mentality thing, I'd presume) will instantly begin to hate anyone they disagree with over any particular topic. Or do the exact opposite, by prematurely taking the word of anyone (or any group) who they have a pre-established belief is smart, authoritative, or trustworthy. I, myself, was very bad with this a lot in my life. Particularly when I first became an atheist and grew to sort of disregard anyone with a belief in religion as simply being stupid, unscientific, or a bit of a rube. In a way, it's almost as if I stopped seeing them as a person. And, instead, saw them as a caricature of what I imagined that type of person to be.

Similarly, I was always a big lefty, as well. And hearing that someone was rightwing, to me, was a major red flag that I shouldn't be trusting anything they had to say. I recall, even with actors or directors, I'd instantly acquire a sort of lower opinion of them once I found out they were a republican. I didn't actually have to hear their opinions on a particular topic or anything. All it took was knowing what label (i.e. tribe) they were associated with.

Nowadays, I sort of catch myself doing the exact opposite of that when it comes to "woke" people. I'll see pronouns in their bio, for instance, and immediately roll my eyes and stop taking them seriously. I try to stay in check about this and not do it so much, but it's not easy. I don't think it's really something that comes natural to our species. I believe in order to more easily function, we sorta utilize heuristics to quickly place someone in either a category of "one of us" or "one of them". It's time-consuming, after all, to look at each topic or individual and have to mentally analyze and weigh out each thing about them before coming to an opinion on them. It's easier to just hear a label and decide you know everything there is to know.

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Good points I see a lot of people who look for just one negative in people and make VERY QUICK judgments to dislike them. In today's world there's a huge rise in these "Injustice Collectors".

One friend of mine pointed this out to me. Several times he's said "see how fast they hated on that guy/girl?"

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Hasn't made anything substantial in a long time. Seems to be reverting back to his old material which was good with the Mallrats sequel and maybe Clerks 3 will be good?

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Also like Peter Jackson

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I think he lost it before that. Smith hasn't created a profitable movie since Clerks II, way back in 2006. The few years before his heart attack, he wasn't doing much of anything besides eating and toking up. I understand he was also a pretty good comic book writer. Don't know when that aspect went down the tubes.

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