Just pretend that the exact same scenario happened only it was Chuck Norris instead of Alec Baldwin. How would you have reacted? My guess is your position would have taken a complete 180.
The truth is Alec violated even the basic rules of firearm safety and he should be prosecuted for murder.
Just pretend that the exact same scenario happened only it was Chuck Norris instead of Alec Baldwin. How would you have reacted? My guess is your position would have taken a complete 180.
to me , it would make zero difference . i dont even understand your comment.
A tragic accident happened in a workplace.
I gather , from the discussions posted here that he has some left wing views , and is in favour of gun restriction laws.
And for some reason that means he did it deliberately and should be tried for murder.
I really dont see where the politics comes into this
but the moviechat rightys are really losing their shit.
Yes , it looks like some safety regualtions were broken
and someone should be held accountable.
but wtf has that got to do with Baldwins political views?
I bet no one even knows the name of the guy who killed Brandon lee with a blank , because he wasnt a hate figure hounded by right wingers
Wait hold on? So someone gets shot and being upset about it equates to "losing your shit"? What the hell is wrong with you? This of course coming from the same side that has bitched and moaned nonstop for the past 10 months over a couple of idiots walking into a building.
shareyou dont seem "upset" about it .
You just seem to be on a hate campaign for baldwin becasue of his politics.
which are in no way connected to this situation.
You also seem to think that "the left" are saying baldwin should be automatiacally released of any culpability becasue he is a fellow lefty.
That is insane.
Someone died of course I’m upset about it and you should be too. The comments on this board suggest that they don’t think Baldwin should have any culpability, they are making every excuse in the book for him and it all boils down to liberal privilege
share"The truth is Alec violated even the basic rules of firearm safety "
yeah , and that stunt man that drove that car on two wheels that time violated the basic rules of the road.
Your point being?
shareyou need me to spell it out in simpler terms? ok.
My point is that when filming a high speed car chase some of the basic rules of the road have to be broken,
Just as when filming scenes with guns , some of the "basic rules of gun safety" have to be broken.
The seems to be a lot of gun nuts on here eager to show off how much they know about gun safety and how all these essential gun safty rules should be apploied at all times even on a movie set.
but i dont see how they can.
hence the car stunt example.
one example:
one of these basic rules is "never point a gun at someone" according to other posters.
yet in the movies people have guns held to their heads all the time.
rule broken.
Totally wrong, you never point a gun at someone unless you are willing to accept the consequences, you are ultimately responsible for every trigger you pull. He should have checked the gun and made sure , even when cleaning the guns you always check the chamber first , that’s basic firearm safety and the rules don’t go out the window just because it’s a movie.
Also its stuntmen performing the car chases and they are experts who know what they are getting into, they signed on for it. No one signed on for getting shot. False equivalence on your part
it cannot possibly be the same on a movie set.
The must have a different method of attaining the same level of "basic gun sfety"
They have an armorer following the actors around checking the gun constantly for one thing.
you dont get that at home.
No, the rules of gun safety never end, sure Baldwin may not have been the one who loaded the gun, but he pulled the trigger so he has some liability and he should go to jail. Someone died because of his carelessness.
I’m guessing his liberal privilege will get him out of this one though.
Chuck wouldn't even need bullets though.
shareNope. Wrong. A movie set is a completely different scenario than you playing around with a gun at home. He should not be and wont be prosecuted for murder. Stop being a political duche and realize us in that are independent dont her caught up in that shit. Chuck Norris would get the exact same response from me.
shareIt is no different, the rules of firearms don't magically go away just because you are on a movie set. Baldwin should have known better and due to his negligence someone is dead. I am sure he won't be prosecuted because he has liberal privilege but he should.
shareIt's nothing to do with liberal privilege. If Rittenhouse gets off its republican privilege I guess...lmao...all you right and left extremists are all agenda driven..end of story....smh.
shareNot really because if Rittenhouse had been a liberal and the people shot had been Trump supporters it never would have even gone to trial and he’d be hailed as a hero. My evidence is Ashli Babbit, who was unarmed and shot with no warning and the media is claiming she deserved to die.
Liberal privilege is a very real thing.
Whatever....but both sides are full of looneys and I want nothing to with it.....
shareLiberal privilege is a very real thing
what? like when?
any examples?
Liberals burn, loot, riot and murder all throughout Summer 2020 and not only is anyone who dares to take issue called a racist, but they are glorified by the liberal media and even bailed out of jail by KKKamala Harris.
The one instance where the right acts out of line by walking into a building they are immediately slandered and smeared as racist white supremacist terrorists and politicians who they support are impeached. Not to mention an unarmed woman is shot without warning and the narrative becomes that she deserved to die because she voted for Trump
I can go on if you’d like……
The word "racist" is losing all meaning.
If you disagree with a Lib (on any subject at all), you must be a racist.
They spin everything to the race care -- 'Cause that's all they got! 🙄
Yeah, white people are shot in self defense so therefore it’s an act of “white supremacy”, what kind of twisted libtard logic lead anyone to that conclusion?
shareAs one of those who has been insulted as an SJW, albeit incorrectly, my answer would be exactly the same:
Let the results of a proper investigation and court findings (if it comes to that) come out before a conclusion is drawn
I find that both sides don't do this. Some posters reduce themselves to insults rather than have a legit discussion. Some even make your type of post.
Tell that to the DemoKKKrat cult who slandered and smear Kyle Rittenhouse as a “white supremacist” when they didn’t know the first thing about what they were talking about. I hope the family sues the shit out of that son of a bitch Joe Biden.
shareI do tell both sides that.
It helps a person's credibility to refrain from grade school name calling and to stick to the facts.
I haven't really looked in to the Kyle Rittenhouse case, nor the Alec Baldwin case to fully form an opinion on, but I mention to people to wait until the completion of the legal process to come out one way or the other. Between the defense and the prosecution grilling witnesses, usually the truth comes out.
Then maybe you should be saying the same thing to the DemoKKKrat cult leader who could be looking at legal action against him for jumping to conclusions and slandering Rittenhouse by calling him a “white supremacist”
shareAbsolutely not.
I don't think I will be getting dragged in to any person's private little fight with another poster.
Then you've demonstrated your own bias.
shareNo.
I just said I'm not getting dragged into your private little fight with this poster.
Then stop replying
shareYou too, huh.
shareI'm not the one bitching.
shareYou are.
shareQuit playing the victim and either man up or leave the internet.
shareThis conversation is deteriorating quickly. I'm obviously not dealing with someone who displays maturity or capable of carrying on an intelligent conversation.
shareWhy would people react differently to it happening to Chuck Norris? It would still be an accident.
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I don’t believe you, I believe you would be calling for his execution and you would somehow try to blame it on Trump , then you’d politicize it and try to use it to justify gun control. The lefts playbook is beyond predictable
shareYou sound insane.
shareYou and your cult are insane.
shareI'm not the one that's insisting that you want people dead because they don't believe the same things you do. You are talking crazy.
shareUhhh I never said that numb nuts.
share"I believe you would be calling for his execution.”
shareOh I see what you’re saying, and yes that was a factual statement. My evidence: The libtard media said that Ashli Babbit deserved to die because she trespassed and was a Trump supporter.
Also you strawmaned me: I never said that you would want PEOPLE dead, I said one person. There’s a difference numb nuts.
You keep calling me numb nuts when YOU are the one who doesn't understand, it's petty and I don't have nuts so maybe you could grow up a bit?
Could you send me a link of where liberal media said that Ashli Babbitt deserved to die? Just one, shouldn't be hard to find right?
You said that I would be calling for his execution . . .I would not whether it was a PERSON or people and insisting that I would because I'm a liberal is absurd and ignorant.
I’m calling you that because it accurately reflects your radical position.
The LA Times says it wasn’t an unjustified shooting, there is no situation where shooting an unarmed woman (who was a veteran by the way) with no warning: https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-08-24/officer-killed-ashli-babbitt. If she had been a BLM terrorist throwing rocks at cops and burning down police stations and courthouses she would have been a martyr to the DemoKKKrats.
I don’t believe you, you and your cult have very flexible morals which are fully dependent upon what will benefit you politically the most. You are a disgrace.
you are so right wing exteremist whack job its unbeleiveble
since Randall has gone you certainly inherit the title
Your OP says it all
Just pretend that the exact same scenario happened only it was Chuck Norris instead of Alec Baldwin. How would you have reacted? My guess is your position would have taken a complete 180.
look at that!! ^^^ i mean like . wow . how fucking delusional can you get???
normal people be like :
"what the fuck is the difference wether it was Baldwin or Norris??"
Then , with a bit of further reading we discover that they have opposing political views
, and in your serioulsy fucked uop crazy extremist mind ,
this is a key battle in some imaginary political dispute.
Not true, I’m not even a Republican, I am an independent and a very impartial and objective one at that. You are a far left radical and it shows. The thing is when you’ve been indoctrinated by the DemoKKKrat cult objectivity seems far right.
shareI think the anti-Baldwin brigade is substantially more biased. If Norris had done it, then left-leaning people would probably have similar opinions about legal and moral jeopardy. The hard-right is more hypocritical. What can I base that on? The fact that there are least two people shouldering more blame than Baldwin and largely overlooked by conservative commentators.
That said, if Norris pulled the trigger, the left would undoubtedly play up the right's unhealthy obsession with firearms in general and the stupidity of guns.
Not at all, there is only an Anti-Baldwin “brigade” because he murdered someone. I’m not here to defend the right but they are for the most part far and impartial despite a few bad apples, the left however has become a radical, socialist terrorist movement who only cares about politics and advancing their lies and radical agendas and they don’t give a good damn who gets hurt in the process.
The left would be having a meltdown had this been Norris, just like they had a meltdown when a couple of Trump supporters trespassed into a building despite the fact that they ignored the over 500 riots and insurrections that their cult leaders not only refused to condemn but even egged on.
Your post is self-refuting. It's like you put on big floppy shoes, painted your face, threw on a stringy multicolored wig and declared that you're not a clown. My favorite part was "a couple of Trump supporters trespassed into a building."
Also, for years, the right has been saying, "radical, socialist terrorist movement." That's a repetition from the Tea Party movement in 2009. *Yawn*
Hahahahahaha nice try, the tea party was a peaceful protest that was protesting the government getting too big.
Nothing like the modern day left that riots and causes insurrections when they don’t get their way.
Talk about the mother of false equivalences.
It'd be nice if you could read for comprehension. I wasn't comparing the Tea Party protests to summer riots. My comment was explicitly about the usual threat inflation: "radical, socialist terrorist movement." Those yahoos held up signs, "Keep the government's hands off my Medicare." "Save Medicare, stop socialized medicine." Idiots. They called for the usual tax cuts, despite tax rates being at relative lows.
You go on to conflate protests with insurrections. You don't understand false equivalences; you live in one.
The tea party and the Demokkkrat insurrectionists don’t belong in the same sentence , they aren’t even on the same planet. It’s fallacious to even compare them
shareMurder? No, that requires intent. Baldwin was responsible for checking the gun before he pointed it in the direction of people and pulling the trigger, but at best he is guilty of negligence. Maybe a minimal manslaughter charge.
shareIt absolutely is murder, and the son of a bitch belongs behind bars. I hope he rots.
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