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it amazes me that people think this is real..

posted 3 years ago by [deleted]
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Chris Rock makes a joke about javier bardem and penelope cruz, they laugh out loud, yet we can't hear anything that they say because they aren't wearing mics. yet we can hear will smith laugh, talk, scream and later the echo of his mic with the slap and him patting his suit walking away... why was he wearing a mic?

why was he laughing at the joke? why don't we have footage of him laughing then seeing jadas face which we are told angered him enough to do what he did? there were 100s of camaras, wheres the footage?

a youtuber who is a professional camara man, says the way the shots were done, shows that they were expacting what happened, we were told they asked will to leave, then now it's not true...

listening to will smith act and talk like he does in real life, theres a huge difference, when he acts he talks with his head, just like he does when he's screaming at chris rock. thats not how he speaks normally.

it's insane how naive people have become, i predict that in less than a month it will come out that it was staged.

[–] Sparky123 (1680) 3 years ago

If you are right the only question is, why?

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

people were getting bored of the oscars, for the last 5 years the viewing figures were reaching record lows. they needed a boost. they say all publicity is good publicity and it's true. i really do expect both of them to go on some late night talk show next month and say it was staged.

Will and chris have been friends for years, since the 80s and 90s, chris appeared on the fresh prince, chris and jada have been in many of the same films.

[–] Sparky123 (1680) 3 years ago

No way will would do this he looked a right moron, even if they now say it's staged no one will believe them, they could say that even if it wasn't staged to make will look a bit better.

[–] christomacin (4658) 3 years ago

Even it is staged, so what? Call their bluff and assume it's real. Demand accountability not just from the Smiths but from Hollywood. How do they get a win out of this? I don't understand the logic behind this reasoning.

[–] Sparky123 (1680) 3 years ago

You asking me?

[–] christomacin (4658) 3 years ago

No, those were rhetorical questions. I mean not directed at you, specifically. However, anyone that has plausible answers is welcome to chime in.

[–] Sparky123 (1680) 3 years ago

Arr ok 👍

[–] Ticket41 (68) 3 years ago

This was the second lowest rated oscars... not everything is a conspiracy

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

who said everything? i'm talking about one specific thing. not everything. it's just that some people can look at something and see it doesn't really add up, others can't. and that at times explains why the world is in such a mess and some people fall for nigerian prince lottery scams. they take everything at face value.

[–] Ticket41 (68) 3 years ago

So what’s the scam here?

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

what was the scam between letterman, kaufman and jerry lawler? that too in 1982 i believe got the same level of attention this did. people were going nuts. it was later found out to be totally staged. and we can compare the two events, because they both include big stars at the time and one of them is a comedian all done on live tv.

why did they do it? it was staged, i'm not 100% sure why smith/rock thing was staged, i'm not even talking about conspiracies here, but it doesn't add up, will smith laughed before and after the slap, jada too was caught laughing, theres videos, even the MSN report it.

we're missing the very important footage of will going from laughter to slap... the inconsistences of the academy saying something, then no, the strange almost predictive camara work, as if they knew where to go...

it obviously doesn't add up, but i'm not talking about illumaniti shapeshifting reptilan flat earth conspiracies!

it just seems to me like a goof ball hoilywood bit to get some publicity going, it wouldn't be the first time eh?

[–] roreyking (603) 3 years ago

OP: LOL! You’re just the kind of moron Bensonhurst is famous for.

[–] ThrillerTalk (1118) 3 years ago

I'm sorry but you're wrong on this OP. Footage or no footage Will Smith did what he did and he apologized for it. Chris Rock is a comedian, Will Smith and Jada understand that but the thing is Chris Rock has been talking shit about them since the 2016 Oscars, and maybe before that too. I really don't know. Regardless though all of that combined with him making a joke about her legit illness that night is what pissed Jada off and what set Will off once he saw that Jada was not feeling what was said about her.

What Will did was wrong but it's just one of those things that can happen because nobody is perfect. Will got extremely angry and he acted. Luckily it wasn't much of a blow so I'd think/hope for his sake that they don't send a too harsh of a punishment his way. Atleast Chris didn't sue and I'm glad he didn't for the reasons I explained in a different topic on here.

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

he didn't sue because it was fake, why was he wearing a mic but nobody else was?

wheres the footage of will going from laughter to anger?

why did chris put his hands behind his back and lean into the slap? going against human nature?

why did the camara cut to him? why didn't they go to a break?

why has the academy contradicted itself with saying they asked him to leave and later no?

i could go on forever it's just people who are too easily fooled. i don't know if it's funny or scary at this point

[–] Lucia2016 (615) 3 years ago

I am all for a good psy-op and the first person to call bullshit on things like this but no i can' buy that it was staged. Mainly because if it was a publicity stunt it hasn't made the Oscars more appealing, it's just made these superstars look pathetic and weak minded.

Not Sure what you mean about being mic up there would be mics everywhere and he still had to shout top of his voice to be heard. I think when you string together Will Smiths life events over last few years he looks like a man who is finally breaking, quite sad really.

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

i don't know why people fail to grasp such basic things nowadays. look, chris rock makes a joke about javier bardem not wanting to win if penelope cruz doesn't, they both laugh out loud, they both say something which we can't hear, because they aren't wearing mics.

however we hear will smith laugh, we hear him talk, we hear the slap, and we hear the echo from his microphone as he's returning to his seat when he pats his suit with his hand. theres an mic echo.

why was will in the audience wearing a mic, yet javier barden and his wife weren't? and surely nobody else in the audience was either? does that not strike you as strange?

and just because the oscars pulled a stunt to get attention, doesn't mean it can't backfire and go wrong, but look at the likes of whoppie and others in media doing damage control..

[–] Lucia2016 (615) 3 years ago

But what evidence is there that he was wearing a mic?

He was sat in the the front row seat A1 so he was much closer to the action, Javier Bardem muttered something in amongst the crowd laughing. You can still hear Bardems voice clear as day when he laughs at joke, same level as Smiths

The Slap sound was heard from Rocks mic obviously and the patting down thing i'm not sure what you are talking about but it's a stretch if that's all your basing it on

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

i've explained it 4 or 5 times here doll. he accidentally or not hits his hand on his suit while walking away from the slap, theres a mic echo heard, proving he's wearing a mic. it's that simple.

please don't make me explain it again

[–] spurtle467 (1549) 3 years ago

When did we hear Will laugh? All I remember is a noise made from the slap, which could easily be from Rock's mic, and then the shouting that Will Smith was doing, which, if he had a mic, would be a lot louder wouldn't it?

The fact he was laughing initially at the joke IMO makes it actually more genuine. A more staged reaction would have been for Will Smith to look upset at the joke instantly, or have us show him looking at Jada and then switching his expression. No footage of that happening does not mean anything either. You won't get camera angles at every single part of the Academy Awards...it's not Blade Runner!

[–] strntz (12343) 3 years ago

Let's not ruin a good delusion with facts and logic please.

[–] maximmm (3343) 3 years ago

I'm totally with you about the missing footage.
Apparently there's another person who was filming this thing from behind will (look for a different angle footage) - but even they didn't release the moment between Will laughing and then him getting angry, which is odd - because they were filming the whole thing, so that footage exists. I do find that curious - did Jada verbally ask WS to attack CR? Are they protecting him? Or was there another entity altogether that they are hiding?

The microphone bit - Will wasn't wearing a mic - but there are mics set up around the hall - they can be isolated (with a flick of a button in the control room) - if nothing else, it's how you hear the laughter. The odds of them having mics set up in the front rows are very high, since that's where all the vip's sit.

Chris putting his hands behind him.... there are many ways to explain it - the odds are, will was smiling when he approached Chris, but I do find the lack of 'shock' facial reaction on Chris' face odd -

They didn't cut the thing out, but they did bleep out Will's words -

As for Academy - This whole thing makes everyone look bad - academy, WS, Jada, and everyone that partook in the standing ovation when WS picked up his award. As I'm sure you already read - academy was thinking of kicking him out, as per the discussions between the runners of the show, but they did not reach a consensus. I have a suspicion WS was approached, asked to leave by some peeps in power, but was then told he could stay by other peeps in power - so they actually did both - ask him to leave and stay at the same time - lol https://pagesix.com/2022/03/31/academy-lied-about-asking-will-smith-to-leave-oscars-report/

And why did CR not sue? There are too many possible reasons for it - as you know, they know each other - quite well.
https://www.nme.com/en_asia/features/film-features/will-smith-chris-rock-relationship-through-the-years-3193661

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

there will be an explaination for anything, but sometimes these explainations become silly and implausible, they are more about personal bias and someone wanting to believe thats how it went down, rather that any basis in reality.

look, if i told you that a glass of water fell out of my hand, the likely outcome would be that it fell to the ground, water spilt out, and maybe the glass broke on impact. after many years on this earth we accept that as what would happen.

now if i told you that the glass floated upwards, ignoring the laws of gravity, and returned to my hand with more water in it than before, logically you'd know it's not true, thats not how things play out. you'd call BS on it.

thats essentially what people are doing with this story, they are finding outlandish explainations in order to explain the implausible...

will smith laughs at the joke, and laughs returning to his seat, he was wearing a mic, we are told he was asked to leave, then no he wasn't...we're missing major footage, and yes, the oscars use more than one camara. sorry to break it to you!

in reality i don't really care about if this is real or faked... but what worries me is society that can be so easily fooled. because i see a link between this and other insane things in our society. the average adult functions like a 7 year old.

[–] maximmm (3343) 3 years ago

There is a lot that's currently going on. Frankly, I see a direct link between covid and ukraine fiascos.

As for this WS/CR thing - it's much ado about nothing.

Again, I'm with you in regards to the missing footage.

Again, there are MANY mics set up around the studio - read this from 2016 - https://www.fastcompany.com/3057135/dolbys-sound-geek-guide-to-the-academy-awards

As for WS being asked to leave, I've already referenced an article - the key point in the article which claims that WS was not being asked to leave is that the main runner of the show approached WS 35 minutes after this incident and told him he could stay - that alone implies that there was talk of WS having being asked to leave at some point.

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

Do you know what happened on the letterman show once? jerry lawler slapped andy kaufman, knocked him out of chair. there was outrage, just like now. it was a major event. kaufman was on taxi, a major major show at the time... there was talk about andy sueing jerry, he wore a neckbrace...

10 years later in his book, lawler said it was staged, 15 years later in the jim carrey film "man on the moon" about the life of kaufman, it again was shown to be a staged event. (interestingly enough lawler the day after the oscars tweeted "me and andy were doing this years ago!")

these people are actors, they are drumming up publicity, like the old adage says, "all publicity is good publicity" doesn't chris rock have a new show or tour? hasn't the oscars being going down hill for years?

i repeat wheres the most important footage of all? of will smith going from laughing his ass off to physically atacking someone? don't believe in the outlandish fiction of "the camara didn't get it" there will be dozens of camaras! there is a control centre which decides which camara focuses on who, but they are all filming, the tape is rolling....

it makes no sense, and if it makes no sense then it's not true! theres no big conspiracy here, it's simply 2 actores acting, and sooner or later it will come out!

[–] maximmm (3343) 3 years ago

I think the odds of this whole thing being staged are not zero. When WS slapped RC - he back to his chair with a smile on his face - not a hint of anger.
I'm just saying that many of your arguments can be easily explained away without even having to flex the brain muscle.
The entire footage of WS/Jada interaction does exist - and yes, it is odd that they are not showing it. Even if it was staged, all WS had to do was look at Jada and make an angry face at that moment, before storming off to the stage. The fact that this is not being shown says something went wrong during that moment - and I have no idea what that might be. Like I said, there's another person that was recording CR on smartphone while sitting right behind WS/Jada - they got that interaction on the phone, but had opted to only release the part where WS hits and then returns to his chair with Jada laughing.

[–] christomacin (4658) 3 years ago

^disinformation troll, possibly Russian

[–] maximmm (3343) 3 years ago

This could be the most important story of our generation - on the most important forum of the planet - so, I'm not at all surprised you think Putin is involved :)

[–] RoboReCop (3312) 3 years ago

Yeah, I noticed Smith's duper's delight smirk walking back to his seat. Additionally, before the show, Smith said he was going to "create chaos" tonight.

[–] ThrillerTalk (1118) 3 years ago

and you know they didn't have mics how? Perhaps they had the ability to turn said mics on and off and Will chose to have his on when he spoke to Chris across the room after the slap. You don't know anymore than the rest of us so thats that. We can speculate till the end of time but I for one will not be after this message. Whats done is done. Will apologized and now it's old news.

Goodbye.

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

hahahahahaha ayyy i can imagine your little face writing that! with the "goodbye" at the end too! ayyy! that's adorable!

[–] yatzo376 (7717) 3 years ago

I predict in less than a month Will Smith will give Oprah an interview opening up about his deteriorating mental health which culminated in him slapping Chris Rock and making an ass out of himself in front of a billion people

[–] CraigC (8227) 3 years ago

Why do you think he was wearing a mic? He wasn't. You're a dumbass.

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

another over emotional person that can only insult, because will he pats himself on the chest after the slap and a mic echo is heard... hahahahahahahaha!!!!!

[–] CraigC (8227) 3 years ago

Not emotional at all, quite the contrary. That was Chris Rock’s mic, genius.

[–] Lucia2016 (615) 3 years ago

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[–] DeathbySnuSnu (1008) 3 years ago

Would people come out with this level of cope if it was a white guy had done this?

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

would whoops have defended him?

[–] DeathbySnuSnu (1008) 3 years ago

Whoops, love it! Good work.

[–] JBran (1659) 3 years ago

It amazes me that you think it’s staged.

They only picked Will’s voice up because he was on the very front row next to the boom and he was screaming.

Javier was not.

If you actually watched the whole thing you can see how shook up Chris Rock was after the incident, he was a nervous wreck afterwards, messed up all his scripted lines and it was painfully obvious he didn't know where to go after the award. Not to mention what he said to the assistant after the break.

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

1. the 2 couples were at most 5ft apart, if it caught one on the mic, it would catch both.

2. wait, you're telling me that an actor with 40 years experience, 50 plus films, some of them huge hits, his own tv show, and another who went on to win an oscar, could never possibly show shock and anger, really?!

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

[–] spurtle467 (1549) 3 years ago

One day these conspiracy theorists might finally conspire to believe an event played out exactly how it was reported.

[–] christomacin (4658) 3 years ago

I'm actually more amazed that he can fog up a mirror, let alone think. "Smooth Brain" is far too optimistic a sobriquet, as this assumes the organ is present and accounted for in the first place.

[–] letess (1540) 3 years ago

And the LAPD’s statement is also staged.