I think he's the worst of the "big" 80s/90s action stars.
He ain't Arnie. He ain't Sly. He ain't JCVD. As bad as Dolph is, he's not even at his level.
shareAs dry as his acting was, nobody could clear a bar full of tough guys like Steven Seagal.
shareI think his acting sucked and his movies were the worst of the bunch.
shareBut nobody could whip as much ass as Seagal with a towel and a cue ball.
sharesee, joe, you discredited yourself with that post. his movies clearly aren't the worst of the bunch, but for you to continue to claim that you show you have a pre-bias against him, so therefore i can't take what you say as honest input.
translation: you are full of shit, and just trying to stir up drama.
sure one could criticise him after, say, 1995. but between 88 and 95 he made good films. so why not admit that? answer: an axe to grind, for whatever reason.
cheers.
His Rotten Tomato and IMDb scores for all his films 1988-1995. The % in brackets is the audience score.
Above the Law
RT: 55% (48%) IMDb: 6.0
Marked for Death
RT: 27% (50%) IMDb: 5.9
Hard to Kill
RT: 33% (47%) IMDb: 5.8
Out for Justice
RT: 23% (53%) IMDb: 6.1
Under Siege
RT: 79% (62%) IMDb: 6.5
On Deadly Ground
RT: 12% (34%) IMDb: 4.6
Under Siege 2
RT: 34% (38%) IMDb: 5.5
The Glimmer Man
RT: 11% (38%) IMDb: 5.4
I'm not sure how you can say he made good films between these years.
Because he did.
I dont care what rt says. These numbers just say more about rt than it does about seagal.
You and i are different. I dont need someone else to tell me if a film is good or not. I also dont have pretentious hangups about enjoying a decent popcorn movie. Everything doesnt have to be godfather or casablanca.
These numbers just say more about rt than it does about seagal.
Well, it's separated by critics and audience score. I also provided IMDb scores.
I dont need someone else to tell me if a film is good or not.
But that's exactly what you were doing to me. Your comment to me: "but between 88 and 95 he made good films. so why not admit that?" I don't think he made good movies, so why should I have to admit he made good ones?
I also dont have pretentious hangups about enjoying a decent popcorn movie. Everything doesnt have to be godfather or casablanca.
Neither do I. School of Rock is a great movie that had no chance of being nominated for any Oscars. share
Well in that case i just dont get the hste. Dude i am a straight shooter. Zero pretense. Everybody knows this.
And yet Im baffked at all this hate for steven seagal.
My intuitive side tells me theres something else behind it.
You can decline, but may i ask your age?
39. But I should say that if there's one person I actually hate of all the people mentioned, it's Stallone.
shareInteresting
Well im not mad at ya. But i do think you have some pre conceived biases which you picked up somewhere.
My guess is you first eber viewing of a seagal film was after ge had already fallen from grace, which i acknowledged after 95. And which i agree with btw
I guess what im saying is you came along at a time when the consensus was negative, and that probably influenced you.
My guess is you never even tried to like one of his films, for above reason.
But imo to throw the early films in with the post 95 bad ones is not accurate. But hey you carry on, and have a good day.
I'm not sure which one was the first of his I saw. My friend had a brother who had a bunch of his movies on VHS in the 90s that we'd watch when I came over.
shareHOW IN GOD'S NAME AM I OLDER THAN YOU...YOU ARE SUCH A SITTY OLD FUDDY DUDDY. NOEMOJI
shareMore....
You cite arnold sly and vandamme up top. You seriously put their films above seagal's???? Again, that says more about you than it does the films.
Have you seen commando? Dredd? Kickboxer? Those 3 guys' films are dead in line with seagal's, undeniably. Same goes for acting skills, of ALL 3 GUYS.
I dont see how you single seagal out here. Then you actually praise the other guys, plus dolph lundgren. Dude your criticism doesnt add up. I think you are just piling on because its the hip thing to criticize seagal right now.
I don't put JCVD up top. To me Arnie is first because he has: Terminator 1 & 2, True Lies and Predator. Sly is #2 because of Rocky and First blood. But JCVD, Dolph, and Seagal all had terrible movies. Seagal's films I just found more unbearable. I also don't think he had much to offer as an actor/action star either.
shareOnly because they came at him 1 at a time...
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