World's Greatest Hypocrite

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And she called the Pope a nazi. No kidding. reading it right before coming here. I think Tim just got out in time. This bag'o'bags is losing her mind completely

Accept Loss ~ Jack Kerouac

I think the Occupy Wall St. movement is really about protesting all the merchants in power that are robbing people blind
That's because you're a Marxist.


Technically speaking, the Pope IS a - - - - because he belonged to that youth group
TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, participation in that group was mandatory. And he was A YOUTH, not an adult. And just FYI, HE ESCAPED and thus risked his life to GET AWAY FROM THAT GROUP. He then helped others escape Nazi persecution and death. So you can go to Hell.



"Careful, man, there's a beverage here!" - The Dude

<< TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, participation in that group was mandatory. >>

So how is it that others his age refused to join, despite the risks?

Wouldn't we expect a little more heroism from THE POPE for god's sake ? ? ? ?

Please, I'm sorry...but it's unforgivable.

So how is it that others his age refused to join, despite the risks?
Well, I never heard of any. I'd love to read all about it. I'd appreciate links to where you read about it so I can have more information.



Wouldn't we expect a little more heroism from THE POPE for god's sake ? ? ? ?
I never realized he was the Pope when he was a kid. And BTW, its proper to capitalize references to God when writing, even when done in vain.


Please, I'm sorry...but it's unforgivable.
So are the lies perpetrated against him. I'm wondering, though, exactly what is unforgivable. The fact he was forced to join the group (not voluntarily, by the way), or the fact he escaped and helped others at the risk of his own life?

Thanks a lot!

-NG



"Careful, man, there's a beverage here!" - The Dude

<< So how is it that others his age refused to join, despite the risks / Well, I never heard of any. I'd love to read all about it. I'd appreciate links to where you read about it so I can have more information. >>

From interview with author Michael H. Kater, author of Hitler Youth.

A: Often there were loopholes [to joining] because somehow children cheated -- on the Hitler Jugend (HJ) elders -- or parents moved somewhere else with them or they just did not join and after repeated inquiries by HJ authorities which were not answered by parent or child the HJ gave up...

Q: Did anybody refuse to join the Hitler Youth? What happened to them?

A; That's a long story. See my chapter 4 on resistance. In severe cases, when they did not join and actually went in for physical attacks on the Hitler Youth (Edelweisspiraten) they could be arrested and put in a special youth concentration camp. At least five of those Edelweisspiraten were publicly hanged because they had collaborated with foreign workers in some kind of local insurrection-cum-sabotage (in one case killing a Cologne Gestapo official in the process). The most important case is that of the Scholl siblings (Hans and Sophie, core of the White Rose resistance group), who had become estranged from their Hitler Youth beginnings and as university students and soldiers at the front (1942/43) decided to oppose Hitler actively. They posted massive anti-Hitler slogans in Munich and surroundings and were caught and beheaded. There were about ten of them, all told. Most had been active HJ members before, some even as leaders, Sophie and Hans in particular...

So, you're saying there were only about a dozen or two who just disappeared, and less than that who actually joined others in protests? Wow, sounds like it was SO easy and would have occurred to everyone to do that, huh?

So then, why didn't everyone?



"Careful, man, there's a beverage here!" - The Dude

I am just saying there are other youth in the same situation who DID resist, regardless of whether it was easy or not. So since not everyone joined, and even some who joined didn't stay passive but actually RESISTED, the whole "mandatory/compulsory" claim kind of falls away.

I'm sorry...I do hold the pope (or future pope) to a higher standard than the rest of the world population.