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Bond films and novels being censored


This is absolute BS!

Last year, Ian Flemings Publications released newly censored versions of the original James Bond novels for the series’ 70th anniversary, after sensitive readers made changes to the text they deemed inappropriate for modern audiences.

And now the early 007 movies are facing similar scrutiny as the British Film Institute labels Sean Connery James Bond movies and other classics of the Sixties and Seventies with trigger warnings for potentially offended 21st-century cinemagoers.

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/1851942/Sean-Connery-James-Bond-movies-trigger-warning-Goldfinger-You-Only-Live-Twice

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'newly censored versions of the original James Bond novels [...] after sensitive readers made changes to the text they deemed inappropriate for modern audiences.'

'trigger warnings for potentially offended 21st-century cinemagoers.'

God almighty.

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So as long as the original novels are still available, and you ignore the trigger warnings on the movies...what's the problem?

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The problem is woke cultists relentlessly forcing their shit on culture and people. You can all fuck off.

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Who is forcing? You can choose not to buy the altered books in favour of the originals.

And you can fast forward through any warning at the beginning of the movies.

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i know a group of people from another time and place that you would fit in with famously

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No, none of your desecration of my culture is permitted. You can take your pathetically censored books and deranged woke warnings, shove them up your ass and fuck off.

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The problem, RM, is that there are people who can blithely shrug off that bullshit in their society, as if it's not a problem...

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it never stops there. you can never give these people enough.

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Because this is one closer step to full censorship, content banning, and book burning.

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Bond is too big to get banned, but I'm more concerned about future productions and how they are filtered through wokism. No wonder movies are such a boring shit in general nowadays, people are too afraid of being offended..

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And there we have it...the inevitable stepping stone to outright banning.

I find that whenever the word banned is used, its usually totally false. Many people claim things are banned, they believe from what they read and see, but in actuality it never actually happens.

I welcome any examples of any films, books etc that are banned...

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People like you are exactly the problem.
It's not the blue haired psychos that only get out of bed to be offended, it's people that not only let it slide, but support it directly or indirectly - like you.

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What on earth does that have to do with what I said above???

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Absolutely everything and I even explained why. The rest is up to you.

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You can claim its 'letting it slide' if you wish, but I stand by the fact that people getting angry and protesting about a warning before a movie, which is shown uncut and uncensored, really need to wind their neck in.

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Yeah, everyone got that the first time you said it - and hence I responded the way I did.

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I'm sorry a lot of other people are yelling at you. They shouldn't do that.

I think there is a problem with this, though, and it basically goes like this:

The particular subset of the population who wants to de-fang, censor, and bowdlerize everything to fit their own ethos cannot say, "Get rid of James Bond. We don't like him. He's misogynistic, and we don't like his pro-British Crown ideas, either." They can't do that because everybody would say, "No." Bluntly, plainly, definitively.

So, they don't say that. They say, "Add a warning to the movies, take out a few words from the books. What's a few words? What's a warning? Is that a big deal?" And a lot of people say, "Oh, is that all you want? Sure."

But later - maybe a little later or a long time later - they'll be back. "Hey, take out some more words. Hey, we see sales are evenly split between the originals and the expurgated versions. Maybe we just ramp up production on the censored copies and see what happens?" And because people don't necessarily look that closely, they buy the version with the shiny, new dust jacket. "NEW EDITION!" say the books' covers and people buy them until the publisher quietly stops publishing the originals.

Next it's using AI to digitally remove the sexist parts of old Bond. Pussy Galore becomes something like "Angel Wings," and Bond's "I must be dreaming" line *sorta* makes sense and after a big "How could you!?" from all of us long-time fans, the next generation either forgets Bond entirely or just takes in the "improved" version who champions only the ideals of the protestors.

Now, if people want to drop a story or not engage with a piece of media, that's fine. But why take it away from others?

Basically, I think it's one of the times applying "slippery slope" is not a fallacy. It's catering to a small sub-culture at the expense of the people who actually want these stories. Remember: Bond fans don't like this. It isn't the people who like Bond who have a problem with him, it's people who don't. Why are they trying to take it over?

Not to mention the fact that Ian Fleming is dead and cannot weigh in. This is all done without the permission of the author (or the original films' directors, writers, and stars).

Or, far put with more elegance, insight, and vitriol, here is the Coda from Fahrenheit 451 - both by Ray Bradbury:

https://katherinesmithth.weebly.com/uploads/9/7/1/7/9717809/coda_from_ray_bradbury_for_fahrenheit_451.pdf

He ably and dare-I-say poetically puts forward the case for not catering to special interest groups at all.

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Now, with all that said, I do think that the existence of warnings, along with other content warnings, can be okay. I am more worried about what is done to the books. However, I do wonder if we are heading towards censored versions of films now that we have deepfake technology and AI and so forth. But I'm not vehemently against warnings. I will say this, however, allowing warnings for viewpoints (sexism, e.g.) instead of for content (violence, e.g.) might wind up with some odd, laughable, cringe-worthy warnings. "Rated R for violence, strong language, and Republicanism," or "PG-13 some crude humour, drug references, and arguments for open borders."

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People getting triggered by the existence of trigger warnings? You poor things.

Remember when horror movies in the 70s were promoted with big "WARNING" labels on the poster? "Just keep repeating. It's only a movie."

I don't recall the fake culture warriors getting their panties in a bunch back then.

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those "warnings" were for promotion and to get people in the seats because being scared and watching suspenseful movies are forms of entertainment,

these Bond warnings are for sensitive adult babies who want the whole entire world to conform to their coddled existence

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That's the most pathetic explanation of a double standard I've ever heard. If those are plus points of a horror movie, then you should be even MORE offended that the distributors chose to warn people. Logically, speaking.

There are definitely some sensitive adult babies reacting to the existence of these acknowledgements. Maybe if you, the person offended here, just treated the notices the way that fans of horror treated those warnings, as an indication of something you want to see, then you wouldn't be so concerned about what other people might think about your viewing preferences and who those people are.

If you're the one preoccupied by other people's thoughts and who's thinking them then maybe your sensitivity is the bigger problem.

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As long as it's clear that they've been modified from their original versions and the original versions are still available, I don't see the problem.

Trigger warnings added to the beginning of movies is also meh. I can't be bothered to care much about it.

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And the woke crusade continues! But remember guys, it's all just in our head according to some on this board...

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Bond films and novels being censored
posted a month ago by jk90us (4653)
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This is absolute BS!

Last year, Ian Flemings Publications released newly censored versions of the original James Bond novels for the series’ 70th anniversary, after sensitive readers made changes to the text they deemed inappropriate for modern audiences.

And now the early 007 movies are facing similar scrutiny as the British Film Institute labels Sean Connery James Bond movies and other classics of the Sixties and Seventies with trigger warnings for potentially offended 21st-century cinemagoers.

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/1851942/Sean-Connery-James-Bond-movies-trigger-warning-Goldfinger-You-Only-Live-Twice";

This is how I feel about this:

https://giphy.com/gifs/fuck-you-middle-finger-curb-your-enthusiasm-vW6OWFzGMVBde

I own all the Roger Moore BOND Movies and they need to leave them alone.. I always enjoyed the sexual innuendos with those movies.. The Foreplay was awesome

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Will the originals be out of print? If so, that's bullshit.

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