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I know people will hate me for saying this....


But she's only an icon because she died and IMO praising this woman or admiring her is a *beep* in the face of the great true Hollywood actresses like Elizabeth Taylor or Ginger Rogers. Both had true talent but this woman gets to be praised.

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Intellectuals tend to kill themselves more often than people with lower IQs, so you aren't really proving anything by mentioning her death as one of your arguing points.

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Marilyn and Betty Grabl;e, two HOW TO MARRY A MILLIONAIRE superstars, were best friends!

BOTH are equal!

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I think she’s overrated.

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She did some amazing work. I'm not gonna say she is the greatest of all time but her contribution was bountiful.

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OP is right. Marilyn Monroe would be just another 1950s actress if she hadn't died young. That's not to say she wasn't a good one, in the right roles. She probably would have faded from the spotlight by the 1970s and turned up in nostalgia guest spots on "Fantasy Island" and "Murder, She Wrote" in the 1980s. As for Taylor and Rogers, they are still well-remembered stars in spite of the fact that they lived full-span lives. If either of them had died before middle age, they would be tragic icons just like Marilyn Monroe. Jean Harlow is a perfect example of a marginally talented, though likeable actress who is still well-known because she died in her twenties more than eighty years ago. If she had lived past sixty she would be forgotten to all but old film buffs today.

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I agree. I saw "Some Like it Hot". She wasn't much of an actress but she was one of the most beautiful woman of all time in my opinion. Marilyn was before my time but there is no denying that she was incredibly gorgeous!

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You also have to take into account...you’re seeing what she did 60-70 years ago, and comparing it (presumably) through the lens of what you see these days. That might taint your view and perspective of how much she did in those days...what she was able to accomplish on-screen and in photographs.....how much larger than life she was. Sure, death can help create legends. But everyone dies...not many become icons. Her death only added to her mystique.

I was just a kid when I caught Niagara on the late night movie on TV (before there were 500 channels). MM was already long gone at that time, but I knew of her. The scene I caught was when she heard a record being played outside her Niagara Falls motel room. She came out and strolled along the boardwalk, singing this bittersweet song, with a lovelorn look in her face...and that was it. I understood her mystique, and how people could fall hard for such a beautiful and iconic, yet vulnerable young woman. Seeing her playful and sexy side in Some Like it Hot soon after...made me appreciate her even more...not to mention appreciating the classics in general. I get it, these are different times. Maybe with MM, you had to be part of the zeitgeist. Or in my case, catch wind of the tail end of it. Then, ironically, it stays with you forever. That’s the definition of a legend.

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Well, dying(early) DOES change how you are remembered. No way around that fact.

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It's not just that she had the body & the looks, however gorgeous. She had a certain allure that went beyond just sex. There was also a yearning vulnerability that struck a chord with countless people, almost on a subliminal level, a sense of having been hurt & still looking to be loved for herself. Again, either that resonates deeply with someone, or else it doesn't.

I disagree with you, but I don't hate you for your opinion. If she doesn't make that connection with you, that's simply how it is, and nothing wrong with it.

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