MovieChat Forums > General Discussion > What's the most likely way the LA fires ...

What's the most likely way the LA fires started?


Could it have been because of a mishap/s on a movie set/s? An accident, someone careless with something flammable? Or a deliberate act/s, of arson? And what's your reasoning for thinking it was either of those, or possibly something else I didn't mention?

reply

Which movie sets are in the Palisades and Altadena?

Maybe commingling factors were that the high rainfall in 2023 yielded an abundance of vegetation that dried out due to arid conditions in 2024.

reply

This sounds suspiciously reasonable.

reply

(Jewish) Space Lasers of various kinds are the popular answers on the politics board.

reply

yes! now you mention it , its bound to be that .

reply

I don’t know.


[none]

reply

Would this sort of ecological disaster have happened in Mooseport?

reply

Never. Never, I say.


[none]

reply

Direct Energy Weapon did this, the same thing that obliterated Lahaina Maui which will soon be owned by HARPO Productions and the ROCK

reply

Homeless guy lit one of his farts as a joke.

reply

I was up on the Palisades smoking a blunt.

reply

Hey! Don’t look at me.

reply

The two leading theories that hold the most weight are arson (and there have been rumors that the LA police collared a few guys with blow torches), or hobo fires that got out of control. Wouldn't surprise me if some homeless people had a trash fire going, were warming their hands around it that night, and then somehow it got knocked over by mistake.

I would like to point out, however, that [most of the time] when it's not wildfire season in So'Cal, the most common cause for fires to start up in towns and cities at all is usually human-caused, not "climate change" like everyone keeps yelling. Far too often you have some idiot flicking their cigarette out of a car window into the brush by the side of the road, neglected power lines falling into dead trees or bushes that were not trimmed away from the poles, neglected campfires, criminals deliberately setting the fires so they can loot stores or houses that have been abandoned, sociopaths that just wanta watch the world burn, and stooges hired by people higher up that need minions to get them some new real estate when conventional means won't work.

reply

Far too often you have some idiot flicking their cigarette out of a car window into the brush by the side of the road


I keep hearing that, and it's not probable. Only people who have never smoked say that. When I go for a walk and have a smoke, I often toss the butt into some vegetation. That doesn't start a fire and anyone else who smokes can confirm that. There's just not enough fuel for ignition unless we're talking totally dry brush. And even then, it would be difficult. It just really doesn't happen. Has anyone ever done some actual research and proven this half-baked theory?

reply

I'm kind of inclined to believe you that it's not easy to spark a conflagration via a cigarette butt, but it's not out of the realm of possibility. How many house fires back in the day ignited because someone fell asleep while smoking? Also, the cause of the fire that killed 56 people at the Bradford City football grounds in 1985 was a cigarette dropped onto paper under the bleachers.

It's possible given the right circumstances. Did these circumstances exist a couple weeks ago? I have no idea.

reply

Also, the cause of the fire that killed 56 people at the Bradford City football grounds in 1985 was a cigarette dropped onto paper under the bleachers.


But this is my problem with these claims that a cigarette butt caused this fire or that fire:

How was it proven that a cigarette caught fire to paper under the bleacher? The cigarette, the paper, everything involved with the ignition would have been consumed first by the fire. Where's the evidence for this? Or is just a guess by some "expert"?

reply

This isn't wild speculation, it's a confirmed fact. The man responsible for the fire corroborated the fact that it had begun with his cigarette, which had slipped through a gap in the floorboards, landing on years of accumulated trash under the seats, and igniting the conflagration.

This documentary goes over the chain of events (including the warning letter the club had received from the local authorities not long before the disaster, which noted the accumulation of paper under the stands and the fire hazard it represented). Go to 19:23 for a recap of how a simple butt killed 56 people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEl8PEsH4xQ&t=16s

reply

It may have been started by the cigarette, but it's not a "confirmed fact". The New York Times says "most likely". That's speculation, not proof.

Yes, the Popplewell inquiry ruled that the Bradford City fire was most likely caused by a cigarette dropped by a spectator.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/1789964/2020/05/09/bradford-fire-valley-parade-delahunty-police-1985/

reply

Nobodys claiming climate change causes wild fires , they are claiming its making them worse once they have been started by hobos or whatever

reply