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I Will Always Remember Bruce Willis & Cybil Shepherd For This Fine Adult Sitcom Of The 80's


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghYXg_h0pMQ

And Bruce when he had hair as well.. He won't be with us much longer and for that, I'm sad watching this and would give anything to go back to the 80's as opposed to now in 2024 where everyone is divided over stupid shit and that was something we never had in the 80's.. Hell, even the people were different than now and it was simply better.. Anyone who lived through the 80's knows what I'm talking about??

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He was the shit in Fifth Element

Signed, million man

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Back then you had a cohesive, high-trust society. We were united. The Left have done an incredible job of destroying all of that, not least by flooding our nations with people from alien cultures who exploit and attack our way of life, but also ‘educating’ young people to hate their home and slice their genitals off.

Our happy home has been turned into a crumbling, crime-ridden, shit-strewn nightmare by Globalists and Leftists.

The slow decay of Bruce Willis from a remarkably charming leading man to a bald dementia patient maps on to how Western culture has been eaten alive from within.

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Man that’s dark Melton. I don’t think it’s that bad but I respect the rhetoric. Like a punch to the gut for sure

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Our happy home has been turned into a crumbling, crime-ridden, shit-strewn nightmare by Globalists and Leftists.


Contrary to popular belief and what’s often repeated by the MSM and cable news; crime rates in the United States were actually much higher in the 1980s compared to now.

The ‘80s and early ‘90s saw a peak in violent crimes like murder, assault, and robbery. Since then, crime rates have significantly decreased. There has been a slight upward trend in the past few years or so, but it is nothing close to the crime rates of the 1980s.

I get that numbers might not sway anyone, but for those interested, here's some data:

https://www.infoplease.com/us/crime/crime-rate-united-states-1980-2014
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/us-crime-rates-and-trends-analysis-fbi-crime-statistics

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Whatever the ‘stats’ are, normal people can see and feel the decay around them. San Francisco has turned from the glorious city we saw in those Hitchcock films into a literal sewer.

People used to walk around in suits and hats, now they take a dump on the sidewalk.

Hell, even a show like Moonlighting wouldn’t get made now - inventive, charming, witty, romantic. It would be terrible quality and stuffed with crude political messaging.

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Dude, are you going to unironically claim that TV was better in the 80s and 90s to now? It's not even close.

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We had a golden age of television but it’s over now. Just look how a great show like Fargo had 3 great seasons and then devolved into the woke dogshit we have now.

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When do you think this "golden age" ended exactly?

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A few years ago.

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Since 2020 we've had (as new series):

The Queen's Gambit, The Last of Us, House of the Dragon, Ted Lasso, The White Lotus, Severance, Mare of Easttown, Reacher, The Bear, Andor, Dahmer, Only Murders in the Building, One Piece, Midnight Mass, Peacemaker, Silo, Beef, Black Bird, Maid, The Fall of the House of Usher, Unorthodox, Normal People, Paranormal, Dopesick, Slow Horses, The Diplomat, Devs, Mayor of Kingstown, Gangs of London, The Gilded Age, Tokyo Vice, Station Eleven, Perry Mason, I May Destroy You, Tehran, Dark Winds etc

You may not like all of those. Many don't interest me. But they are highly rated by users and critics.

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None of those rank alongside GoT, The Sopranos, Breaking Bad and Twin Peaks, and many are just vehicles for Woke propaganda.

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Which ones there are "vehicles for woke propaganda" there, exactly? You've also just listed some of the 3 greatest shows of all time and compared them to content released in the last 3 years. Is something worthless if it's not Game of Thrones quality (even as GOT fell off)?

And Severance has the potential to be regarded as one of the top tier shows of all time.

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I didn’t say they were ‘worthless’ I said they came after the Golden Age of TV, which is the case.

Also, none of them come close to classic 80’s and 90’s TV like The Simpsons and Friends.

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Your period is a time period spanning between 1990 (beginning of Twin Peaks) and 2011 (Game of Thrones begins). You say it somehow ended in 2020 (?). You are comparing 30 years of content to 3.

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No, the Golden Age began with The Sopranos and ended a few years ago.

This is distinct from the great 80’s and 90’s era which had legendary TV like The Simpsons and Friends.

Both eras easily surpass the woke dreck we’re getting now.

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>No, the Golden Age began with The Sopranos and ended a few years ago.

So you're still comparing 1999-2020 with 2021-23

Of course there are tons of great shows in a 20 year period vs. 2-3.

>Both eras easily surpass the woke dreck we’re getting now.

There's tons of high quality TV shows released that can challenge most shows in the 00s and 10s.

Also, TV is now international. Truly international. Tons of great productions from Europe, Korea.

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It’s all woke dreck now, bar maybe the odd rare exception, but the decent early seasons are often used as a bait-and-switch to lure you into later woke seasons.

Movies are in the worst state they’ve ever been and TV isn't far behind.

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>It’s all woke dreck now, bar maybe the odd rare exception, but the decent early seasons are often used as a bait-and-switch to lure you into later woke seasons.

So all of those shows I've listed are "woke dreck"?

"The Queen's Gambit, The Last of Us, House of the Dragon, Ted Lasso, The White Lotus, Severance, Mare of Easttown, Reacher, The Bear, Andor, Dahmer, Only Murders in the Building, One Piece, Midnight Mass, Peacemaker, Silo, Beef, Black Bird, Maid, The Fall of the House of Usher, Unorthodox, Normal People, Paranormal, Dopesick, Slow Horses, The Diplomat, Devs, Mayor of Kingstown, Gangs of London, The Gilded Age, Tokyo Vice, Station Eleven, Perry Mason, I May Destroy You, Tehran, Dark Winds etc"

And ongoing shows that have continued into the 2020s: Better Call Saul, Warrior, Succession, The Boys, You, Cobra Kai, Barry, What We Do in the Shadows, Derry Girls... all "woke dreck"?

And as I said: Also, TV is now international. Truly international. Tons of great productions from Europe, Korea.

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Cobra Kai is great, but it started 6 years ago, within the Golden Age, and is a rare case of a show not dropping the ball after several seasons.

I’m primarily a movie watcher but I’ll watch a TV show if enough people recommend it. Nobody is recommending new shows to me, and I listen to reviewers who warn about woke content - modern TV is stuffed with it. All those shitty Star Wars and Marvel shows for example.

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>Cobra Kai is great, but it started 6 years ago, within the Golden Age, and is a rare case of a show not dropping the ball after several seasons.

My point here is that it's ongoing into the 2020s. That's why I mentioned it.

So are all the shows I've mentioned "woke"? And if they are, are they so "woke" that they're bad?

>I’m primarily a movie watcher but I’ll watch a TV show if enough people recommend it. Nobody is recommending new shows to me, and I listen to reviewers who warn about woke content - modern TV is stuffed with it. All those shitty Star Wars and Marvel shows for example.

By "reviewers" you presumably mean clowns like Critical Drinker who just watch nothing but the MCU and Star Wars. The guy is genuinely ignorant about modern TV.

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Anything woke is bad, this should be obvious.

Drinker is one such reviewer, and he’s excellent. The fact that you would call an objectively excellent and highly successful reviewer like Drinker a ‘clown’ means you’re a clown, and most likely a wokist.

It increasingly sounds like you’re a woke bitch making excuses for modern dogshit, woke TV. I really hope that isn’t the case.

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>Anything woke is bad, this should be obvious.

So a single "woke" line, for instance, would make a whole show bad?

>Drinker is one such reviewer, and he’s excellent. The fact that you would call an objectively excellent and highly successful reviewer like Drinker a ‘clown’ means you’re a clown, and most likely a wokist.

The Critical Drinker knows very little about modern TV.

In the last 10 months the Criticaldrinker has reviewed:

Echo, One Life, Aquaman and The Lost Kingdom, Rebel Moon, Blue Eye Samurai, The Fall of the House of Usher, Napoleon, The Killer, The Marvels, Robyn Hood (talk about low hanging bait), Saw X, The Creator, Expendables, One Piece, Ahsoka, Blue Beetle, Snow White, Gran Turismo, Witcher, Oppenheimer, Barbie, Mission: Impossible, Sound of Freedom, Indiana Jones, Extraction 2, The Flash, The Covenant, The Menu, Across the Spiderverse, The Little Mermaid, Fast X, Queen Cleopatra, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, Boiling Point, Peter Pan and Wendy, The Mandalorian, Super Mario Bros., Dungeons & Dragons, John Wick, Shazam: Fury of the Gods

The majority of the reviews here fall into Marvel/Superhero stuff (Echo, Spiderverse, Blue Beetle, Guardians of the Galaxy), Franchise (Barbie, Snow White, Peter Pan & Wendy), Generic Action Schlock (Expendables, Mission: Impossible) and Star Wars (Ahsoka, Mandalorian).

Here are some shows TheCriticalDrinker doesn't seem to be aware of: Warrior, Severance, Silo, Babylon Berlin, Pachinko, The Peripheral (unfortunately cancelled), Dopesick, Slow Horses, Station Eleven, The Bear, Black Bird, Devs

Does he just not have Apple TV?

Also it doesn't seem he's ever watched Dark, Black Sails, Mr. Robot, Altered Carbon (S01 was great). No record of Raised by Wolves (this guy like sci-fi or not?) or Foundation (which would probably at least partially annoy him, but it's still sci-fi). A quick search reveals he did watch The Expanse, so this stuff really should be on his radar.

Even if every observation he has made about the MCU, Disney reboots and Star Wars is true... there's just way more to modern TV than this.

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>It increasingly sounds like you’re a woke bitch making excuses for modern dogshit, woke TV. I really hope that isn’t the case.

I'm not convinced you actually know much about modern TV yourself. I'll ask again:

So all of those shows I've listed are "woke dreck"?

"The Queen's Gambit, The Last of Us, House of the Dragon, Ted Lasso, The White Lotus, Severance, Mare of Easttown, Reacher, The Bear, Andor, Dahmer, Only Murders in the Building, One Piece, Midnight Mass, Peacemaker, Silo, Beef, Black Bird, Maid, The Fall of the House of Usher, Unorthodox, Normal People, Paranormal, Dopesick, Slow Horses, The Diplomat, Devs, Mayor of Kingstown, Gangs of London, The Gilded Age, Tokyo Vice, Station Eleven, Perry Mason, I May Destroy You, Tehran, Dark Winds etc"

And ongoing shows that have continued into the 2020s: Better Call Saul, Warrior, Succession, The Boys, You, Cobra Kai, Barry, What We Do in the Shadows, Derry Girls... all "woke dreck"?

And as I said: Also, TV is now international. Truly international. Tons of great productions from Europe, Korea.

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I just can’t be bothered to read all that, let alone explain more painfully obvious facts about the empirically dreadful state of modern TV with all its dogshit woke content.

If you like that crap well then I guess you’re in luck, enjoy it while it lasts.

I’ll also let you write some more inane, prolonged drivel that I won’t read. Go…

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>I just can’t be bothered to read all that, let alone explain more painfully obvious facts about the empirically dreadful state of modern TV with all its dogshit woke content.

You keep claiming this, but you haven't given any evidence that this is uniform at all.

"The Queen's Gambit, The Last of Us, House of the Dragon, Ted Lasso, The White Lotus, Severance, Mare of Easttown, Reacher, The Bear, Andor, Dahmer, Only Murders in the Building, One Piece, Midnight Mass, Peacemaker, Silo, Beef, Black Bird, Maid, The Fall of the House of Usher, Unorthodox, Normal People, Paranormal, Dopesick, Slow Horses, The Diplomat, Devs, Mayor of Kingstown, Gangs of London, The Gilded Age, Tokyo Vice, Station Eleven, Perry Mason, I May Destroy You, Tehran, Dark Winds etc"

And ongoing shows that have continued into the 2020s: Better Call Saul, Warrior, Succession, The Boys, You, Cobra Kai, Barry, What We Do in the Shadows, Derry Girls... all "woke dreck"?

Have you actually watched any of those shows, other than Cobra Kai?

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Amen!

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I'm just spitballing here , playing devils advocaat , I'm not saying this is the case , but maybe .....

Maybe its not that , maybe its capitalism and the worshipping of the almighty dollar that has turned your cities into shitholes.

the "crumbling, crime-ridden, shit-strewn nightmare " is where the "market" has determined a lower value .
"Survival of the fittest" means a lot of corpses of the not fittest lying around.

Its the logical conclusion of the money-is-god philosophy , like at the end of a game of monopoly , where are the other players?
left destitute and shitting on the street thats where , so maybe thats where the game is in USA . The elite 1% have got all the propertys with hotels on them, and are milking the other players.

You are seeing the beggining of a dystopian sci fi cyberpunk us and them future - ala bladerunner

Now I admit that all of the above is ripe for being labelled "commie bullshit" , but I feel there is some sort of balance to be struck.


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Pure commie bullshit. Capitalism is normal and raises countries out of poverty. It is Globalism and Leftism that has destroyed the West, including the mass importation of people from shithole countries. Import the Third World become the Third World.

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I thought the show took a nosedive after him & Cybil ( i.e - their characters) finally "hooked up". It lost that edge of sexual tension that worked so well.

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Yeah, I agree.. Cybil was jealous of Bruce and his rise to Stardom after DIE HARD

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I think fans of Moonlighting would find this interesting, extensive interview with the show's creator, Glenn Gordon Caron. To just watch the stuff about Moonlighting, click on 'Full Interview' then select parts that mention the actors/show.
https://interviews.televisionacademy.com/interviews/glenn-gordon-caron

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I know exactly what you're talking about. I miss the 80's terribly. Moonlighting is at the centerpiece of my 80's memories.
It was on the air when I was in middle and high school, and I never missed it.

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I use a phrase to this day from that programme: -
“We can jump off that bridge if we get to it”

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GOOD SHOW...I WAS TOO LITTLE TO APPRECIATE IT THEN THOUGH...WILLIS IS DIEHARD AND SHEPHERD I THINK OF FROM HER 90S SITCOM.

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From what little I saw of it when I was a kid in the '80s, I didn't like it, and I remember it being notorious for its dearth of new episodes. They even made a joke about that on the show Sledge Hammer: a corrupt female cop knocked out her fellow female cop Dori Doreau in the police locker room, and while she was carrying her out on her shoulder another female cop walked in:

"What happened to Dori?"

"Oh, she's alright. She fainted. I'm taking her outside to get some air."

"My God, what made her faint?"

"She heard Moonlighting wasn't a rerun tonight."

I liked detective shows; Magnum, P.I. was my favorite show at the time (and it still is), and I liked Mickey Spillane's Mike Hammer (1980s version; I've never seen the 1950s version), Simon & Simon, and Columbo, but Moonlighting seemed to focus a lot more on banter between Willis and Shepherd than on solving cases. I could be wrong about that because I never gave the show much of a chance. The few times I watched it I found it boring.

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